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Mat told her?
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maj
2011-01-20 11:53:46 UTC
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In c57 p825 Moiraine says that she knows Rahvin killed
Morgase because Mat told her.

When and how did this happen?

maj
Scott Lurndal
2011-01-20 20:20:08 UTC
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In c57 p825 Moiraine says that she knows Rahvin killed
Morgase because Mat told her.
When and how did this happen?
maj
Just before Moiraine went to the docks and confronted lanfear. That was
the trigger event in the vision she had in Rhuidean of confronting Lanfear.

What bugs me is the bit near the end of Towers of Midnight when Satelle Anan
asks Mat if he knows the Queen - Satelle was the one who dragged Elayne and
Nynaeve to the Kin in Ebou Dar as they left Mat's room in her Inn.

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maj
2011-01-24 10:23:34 UTC
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Post by maj
In c57 p825 Moiraine says that she knows Rahvin killed
Morgase because Mat told her.
When and how did this happen?
maj
Just before Moiraine went to the docks and confronted lanfear. That was
the trigger event in the vision she had in Rhuidean of confronting Lanfear.
s
Sorry Scott, I missed the scene in
c51 p796 FOH Orbit p/b.
Obviously I didn't research well enough.

......Nynaeve to be here, yanking her braid out of her head, and Elayne
staring down her nose. Well, I'm glad she isn't, to hear the news, but even
if you had Nynaeve, I'd not be shoved -"
"What news?" Rand said sharply. "News Elayne shouldn't hear?"
Mat looked up at Moiraine. "You mean there's something you haven't ferreted
out?"
"What news, Mat?" Rand demanded.
"Morgase is dead."
Egwene gasped, clasping both hands to her mouth below eyes like huge
circles. Moiraine whispered something that might have been a prayer.
Asmodean's fingers never faltered on the harp.
Rand felt as if his belly had been ripped out. Elayne, forgive me. And a
faint echo, altered. Hyena, forgive me. "Are you certain?"
"As certain as I can be without seeing the body. It seems Gaebril has been
named King of Andor. And Cairhien, too, for that matter. Supposedly Morgase
did it. Something about the times needing a strong man's hand or some such,
as if anybody could have a stronger than Morgase herself. Only, those
Andorans down south have heard rumors that she hasn't been seen in weeks.
More than rumors. You tell me what it adds up to. Andor's never had a king,
but now it has one, and the queen's vanished. Gaebril's the one wanted
Elayne killed. I tried to tell her that, but you know how she always knows
more than a mudfooted farmer. I don't think he'd balk a second at slitting a
queen's throat."
Post by Scott Lurndal
What bugs me is the bit near the end of Towers of Midnight when Satelle Anan
asks Mat if he knows the Queen - Satelle was the one who dragged Elayne and
Nynaeve to the Kin in Ebou Dar as they left Mat's room in her Inn.
Firstly, Setalle had assumed that Elayne and Nynaeve had just met Mat and
were facing two dangers, dishonour by
Mat, and discovery by the real Aes Sedai. She did not know, and did not wait
to find out, that they had been friends for
some time.
SecondIy I would have to search the notes but I do not recall that enyone
actualy explained to Setalle that Elayne, the
'pretend Aes Sedai' and Queen Elayne are the same person. Although she
probably worked this out, it would have still
been a puzzle to her as to how someone like Mat could know a Queen.

maj

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