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Loony WoT Ideas: Spoilers for tGS
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Tim Bruening
2010-03-05 08:42:28 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One. (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).

Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.

Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.

13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.

Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point). Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord."). I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.

Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Tim Bruening
2010-03-06 13:12:07 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One. (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).
Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.
Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.
13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.
Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point). Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord."). I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.
Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Use Semihage's blood removal weave to remove the blood from Trollocs.

Mat use the Horn of Valere to summon Artur Hawkwing, then order him to order
the Seanchan Empress to ally with Rand and free the damane.

Open a Gateway unto a region full of Trollocs, then hurl fireballs through
it. I understand that Trollocs can't survive going through a Gateway, so
would not be able to close with you as long as you stay on the other side of
the Gateway from them.

Why can't Shadowsprawn survive going through a Traveling Gateway?

Open a Gateway between you and enemy archers, with you at the back of the
Gateway, and its front in front of the archers. The Gateway would lead to a
location in back of the archers, causing their arrows to appear behind them
and hit them in their backs.
TB
2010-03-07 00:02:47 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One. (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).
Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.
Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.
13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.
Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point). Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord."). I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.
Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Use Semihage's blood removal weave to remove the blood from Trollocs.
Mat use the Horn of Valere to summon Artur Hawkwing, then order him to order
the Seanchan Empress to ally with Rand and free the damane.
Open a Gateway unto a region full of Trollocs, then hurl fireballs through
it. I understand that Trollocs can't survive going through a Gateway, so
would not be able to close with you as long as you stay on the other side of
the Gateway from them.
Why can't Shadowsprawn survive going through a Traveling Gateway?
Open a Gateway between you and enemy archers, with you at the back of the
Gateway, and its front in front of the archers. The Gateway would lead to a
location in back of the archers, causing their arrows to appear behind them
and hit them in their backs.
Rand slash Paden Fain with Callandor, then throw him into the Dark One
on the theory that Fain's Shadar Logoth taint will neutralize the DO.
balls wubbles balls
2010-03-07 20:21:36 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One.  (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).
Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.
Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.
13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.
Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point).  Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord.").  I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.
Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Use Semihage's blood removal weave to remove the blood from Trollocs.
Mat use the Horn of Valere to summon Artur Hawkwing, then order him to order
the Seanchan Empress to ally with Rand and free the damane.
Open a Gateway unto a region full of Trollocs, then hurl fireballs through
it.  I understand that Trollocs can't survive going through a Gateway, so
would not be able to close with you as long as you stay on the other side of
the Gateway from them.
Why can't Shadowsprawn survive going through a Traveling Gateway?
Open a Gateway between you and enemy archers, with you at the back of the
Gateway, and its front in front of the archers.  The Gateway would lead to a
location in back of the archers, causing their arrows to appear behind them
and hit them in their backs.
Rand slash Paden Fain with Callandor, then throw him into the Dark One
on the theory that Fain's Shadar Logoth taint will neutralize the DO.
Bela eats Forkroot and it has a reverse effect causing her latent
channeling abilities to blossom. She raises all the women Rand killed
from the dead and they march on the Tower of Genjii and begin tugging
on their collective braids so hard that the tower shatters into a
million pieces shaped like the symbol of the Aes Sedai which are used
by Tuon who learns she can channel the True Power to reseal the Bore.

Makes sense!

wtb
Tim Bruening
2010-03-12 10:32:41 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One. (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).
Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.
Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.
13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.
Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point). Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord."). I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.
Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Use Semihage's blood removal weave to remove the blood from Trollocs.
Mat use the Horn of Valere to summon Artur Hawkwing, then order him to order
the Seanchan Empress to ally with Rand and free the damane.
Open a Gateway unto a region full of Trollocs, then hurl fireballs through
it. I understand that Trollocs can't survive going through a Gateway, so
would not be able to close with you as long as you stay on the other side of
the Gateway from them.
Why can't Shadowsprawn survive going through a Traveling Gateway?
Open a Gateway between you and enemy archers, with you at the back of the
Gateway, and its front in front of the archers. The Gateway would lead to a
location in back of the archers, causing their arrows to appear behind them
and hit them in their backs.
Rand slash Paden Fain with Callandor, then throw him into the Dark One
on the theory that Fain's Shadar Logoth taint will neutralize the DO.
Bela eats Forkroot and it has a reverse effect causing her latent
channeling abilities to blossom. She raises all the women Rand killed
from the dead and they march on the Tower of Genjii and begin tugging
on their collective braids so hard that the tower shatters into a
million pieces shaped like the symbol of the Aes Sedai which are used
by Tuon who learns she can channel the True Power to reseal the Bore.
What do you think the world will be like AFTER the Last Battle?
Steve
2010-03-12 21:28:17 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One. (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).
Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.
Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.
13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.
Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point). Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord."). I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.
Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Use Semihage's blood removal weave to remove the blood from Trollocs.
Mat use the Horn of Valere to summon Artur Hawkwing, then order him to order
the Seanchan Empress to ally with Rand and free the damane.
Open a Gateway unto a region full of Trollocs, then hurl fireballs through
it. I understand that Trollocs can't survive going through a Gateway, so
would not be able to close with you as long as you stay on the other side of
the Gateway from them.
Why can't Shadowsprawn survive going through a Traveling Gateway?
Open a Gateway between you and enemy archers, with you at the back of the
Gateway, and its front in front of the archers. The Gateway would lead to a
location in back of the archers, causing their arrows to appear behind them
and hit them in their backs.
Rand slash Paden Fain with Callandor, then throw him into the Dark One
on the theory that Fain's Shadar Logoth taint will neutralize the DO.
Bela eats Forkroot and it has a reverse effect causing her latent
channeling abilities to blossom. She raises all the women Rand killed
from the dead and they march on the Tower of Genjii and begin tugging
on their collective braids so hard that the tower shatters into a
million pieces shaped like the symbol of the Aes Sedai which are used
by Tuon who learns she can channel the True Power to reseal the Bore.
What do you think the world will be like AFTER the Last Battle?
RAFO - sk
TB
2010-03-13 06:34:42 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One. (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).
Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.
Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.
13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.
Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point). Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord."). I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.
Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Use Semihage's blood removal weave to remove the blood from Trollocs.
Mat use the Horn of Valere to summon Artur Hawkwing, then order him to order
the Seanchan Empress to ally with Rand and free the damane.
Open a Gateway unto a region full of Trollocs, then hurl fireballs through
it. I understand that Trollocs can't survive going through a Gateway, so
would not be able to close with you as long as you stay on the other side of
the Gateway from them.
Why can't Shadowsprawn survive going through a Traveling Gateway?
Open a Gateway between you and enemy archers, with you at the back of the
Gateway, and its front in front of the archers. The Gateway would lead to a
location in back of the archers, causing their arrows to appear behind them
and hit them in their backs.
Rand slash Paden Fain with Callandor, then throw him into the Dark One
on the theory that Fain's Shadar Logoth taint will neutralize the DO.
Bela eats Forkroot and it has a reverse effect causing her latent
channeling abilities to blossom. She raises all the women Rand killed
from the dead and they march on the Tower of Genjii and begin tugging
on their collective braids so hard that the tower shatters into a
million pieces shaped like the symbol of the Aes Sedai which are used
by Tuon who learns she can channel the True Power to reseal the Bore.
What do you think the world will be like AFTER the Last Battle?
RAFO - sk
You say that Brandon Sanderson plans to write about the world after
the Last Battle?

B-onen: Apine in the White Tower.

E-Lane: Street on the Internet and on the Lion Throne.
Nemo
2010-03-18 00:41:35 UTC
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B-onen: Apine in the White Tower.
E-Lane: Street on the Internet and on the Lion Throne.
How do jazz musicians who can't stand getting wet travel by rail? They take
the Hate Rain!
Chucky & Janica
2010-03-13 07:35:18 UTC
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:21:36 -0800 (PST), balls wubbles balls
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Bela eats Forkroot and it has a reverse effect causing her latent
channeling abilities to blossom. She raises all the women Rand killed
from the dead and they march on the Tower of Genjii and begin tugging
on their collective braids so hard that the tower shatters into a
million pieces shaped like the symbol of the Aes Sedai which are used
by Tuon who learns she can channel the True Power to reseal the Bore.
Makes sense!
So you found Tim's stash. Well done.



C&J
Tim Bruening
2010-03-13 08:43:43 UTC
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:21:36 -0800 (PST), balls wubbles balls
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Bela eats Forkroot and it has a reverse effect causing her latent
channeling abilities to blossom. She raises all the women Rand killed
from the dead and they march on the Tower of Genjii and begin tugging
on their collective braids so hard that the tower shatters into a
million pieces shaped like the symbol of the Aes Sedai which are used
by Tuon who learns she can channel the True Power to reseal the Bore.
Makes sense!
Its weirder than any of my ideas!
Tim Bruening
2010-04-26 08:00:17 UTC
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:21:36 -0800 (PST), balls wubbles balls
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Bela eats Forkroot and it has a reverse effect causing her latent
channeling abilities to blossom. She raises all the women Rand killed
from the dead and they march on the Tower of Genjii and begin tugging
on their collective braids so hard that the tower shatters into a
million pieces shaped like the symbol of the Aes Sedai which are used
by Tuon who learns she can channel the True Power to reseal the Bore.
Makes sense!
Do the women then march on Rand?

Tim Bruening
2010-03-18 23:03:41 UTC
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Aviendha discovers that she is Ilyena Reborn.

Moiraine is rescued from Ellfinnland. A delighted Rand exclaims "Thank the
Light you are back! Cairhien really needs a wise women to serve as its
Queen!". Moiraine faints.

A Gateway opens in front of Mat. Out of it step Deathwatch Guards, sul'dam,
damane, and the new Seanchan Empress, who says "Hello, husband!".

In the Last Battle, we see Rand riding a to'raken over Shayol Ghul, raining
Balefire down on that mountain.

Nynaeve guilt trips the White Tower (which was unable to help Malkier 47
years ago) and the Borderland armies into helping Lan.

Rand links with Padan Fain and uses his taint, combined with the True Power,
to blast the DO to kingdom come.

Rand finds the Song the Tinkers have been looking for, and uses it to revive
the crops.

Galad marries Amyrlin Egwene, and Laras is outed as a Darkfriend.
Tim Bruening
2010-03-25 23:51:29 UTC
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The Dark One brings Illyena back to life and offers to trade her to Rand
in return for Rand submitting to the Dark One. (On page 759, Rand
suddenly realizes that Illyena, his dead love from over 3,000 years ago,
might live again, in the same way that Rand is the reincarnation of
Illyena's husband Lews!).
Rand bonds Seanchan Empress Fortuona in the same way that Asha'man have
been binding Aes Sedai.
Rand or an Asha'man bonds a female Forsaken, enabling him to control her
without torture.
13 channeling DFs and 13 Fades turn both Morgase (a very weak channeler)
and Fortuona (who has trained sul'dam, indicating that she can channel)
to the Shadow.
Whitecloak leader Galad proposes marriage to Egwene (IIRC, he was
attracted to her at one point). Egwene (making a shocking connection)
orders White Tower head cook Laras arrested for being a Darkfriend.
(Page 599 of tGS: Verin says that "You'd sooner find a Whitecloak
marrying an Aes Sedai than find Laras swearing to the Great Lord."). I
wonder how Verin got Laras to make her poisoned tea.
Rand discovers that Elaida is Illyena Reborn.
Logain use inverted weaves to disguise himself as Rand, and Rand use
inverted weaves to disguise himself as a beggar and conceal his
channeling ability so that he can get himself hired as a servant by the
Black Tower and investigate allegations that Mazrim Taim is a
Darkfriend.

Logain's AS persuade him to go to the White Tower for help in ousting
Taim.
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