Discussion:
Aes Sedai and Warders
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Mitch
2006-08-28 15:50:05 UTC
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Ok.

I've been wondering about this lately, ever since re-reading the series
and coming across the Draghkar attack on the farm of the two old aes
sedai, as well as Moraine and Lan (I don't have text with me, so I
can't give you the exact passage). It says that the older Aes Sedai's
warder was working forms with Lan, ever since they came to the farm
looking for information.

Do warders live as long as their Aes Sedai? Is that another
benefit/curse of the bond? Also, is this another reason (along with the
Oath Rod) of why Aes Sedai don't live as long as the other women who
channel?
Neil Anderson
2006-08-28 16:59:00 UTC
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Ok.
<snip>
Do warders live as long as their Aes Sedai? Is that another
benefit/curse of the bond? Also, is this another reason (along with the
Oath Rod) of why Aes Sedai don't live as long as the other women who
channel?
No, Warders do not live as long as their AS. Cadsuane has worked her
way through several Warders over the course of her career.

Neil Anderson
Mitch
2006-08-28 17:30:02 UTC
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Post by Neil Anderson
No, Warders do not live as long as their AS. Cadsuane has worked her
way through several Warders over the course of her career.
Ok, thanks.
jharaldson
2006-08-28 18:12:48 UTC
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Post by Neil Anderson
No, Warders do not live as long as their AS. Cadsuane has worked her
way through several Warders over the course of her career.
Cadsuane has also lived much longer then most AS and has led a much
more dangerous life which may account for many of the Warder deaths.
The feeling I have gotten from the books is that the bond prolongs a
Warders life but unless the AS leads a sheltered life (like the AS on
the farm) the Warder is likely to be killed in service as they will put
themselves in harms way to often to protect their AS.

Jesse
David Chapman
2006-08-28 20:21:01 UTC
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Post by jharaldson
The feeling I have gotten from the books is that the bond prolongs a
Warders life
No, it just feels that way.
David Israel
2006-09-01 17:40:40 UTC
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Post by jharaldson
Post by Neil Anderson
No, Warders do not live as long as their AS. Cadsuane has worked her
way through several Warders over the course of her career.
Cadsuane has also lived much longer then most AS and has led a much
more dangerous life which may account for many of the Warder deaths.
The feeling I have gotten from the books is that the bond prolongs a
Warders life but unless the AS leads a sheltered life (like the AS on
the farm) the Warder is likely to be killed in service as they will put
themselves in harms way to often to protect their AS.
Jesse
From what I recall, the bond enhances the warder's health and strength,
so that - unless killed in action - a warder will probably live longer
than the average male. But not as long as the AS herself.
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David Israel
Tim Bruening
2010-03-29 07:39:27 UTC
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Post by Neil Anderson
Ok.
<snip>
Do warders live as long as their Aes Sedai? Is that another
benefit/curse of the bond? Also, is this another reason (along with the
Oath Rod) of why Aes Sedai don't live as long as the other women who
channel?
No, Warders do not live as long as their AS. Cadsuane has worked her
way through several Warders over the course of her career.
What happens when Warders get too old to fight?

What advice did Egwene give to that AS in tGS whose Warder was too old to
fight?
The Mad Alchemist
2006-08-28 22:29:10 UTC
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Also, is this another reason (along with the Oath Rod) of why
Aes Sedai don't live as long as the other women who channel?
Can't be- if a warder shortened an Aes Sedai's life, even the Tower
would have noticed the Reds living far longer than the Greens.

Can an old warder's bond be gently broken for retirement?
Duncan J Macdonald
2006-08-29 00:59:51 UTC
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Post by The Mad Alchemist
Also, is this another reason (along with the Oath Rod) of why
Aes Sedai don't live as long as the other women who channel?
Can't be- if a warder shortened an Aes Sedai's life, even the Tower
would have noticed the Reds living far longer than the Greens.
Can an old warder's bond be gently broken for retirement?
According to Jordan, yes. (The info came on the Tor website, in the
Ask RJ Questions section)

I _still_ have a problem with that, but I'll get over it. [1]



[1] Yeah, right. And the Pope shits in the woods, and a bear is
Catholic.
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Tim Bruening
2010-03-29 07:40:47 UTC
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Post by Duncan J Macdonald
Post by The Mad Alchemist
Also, is this another reason (along with the Oath Rod) of why
Aes Sedai don't live as long as the other women who channel?
Can't be- if a warder shortened an Aes Sedai's life, even the Tower
would have noticed the Reds living far longer than the Greens.
Can an old warder's bond be gently broken for retirement?
According to Jordan, yes. (The info came on the Tor website, in the
Ask RJ Questions section)
So why couldn't that be done in Lan's case?

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