Discussion:
Half the Light of the World (KoD Spoilers)
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Rajiv Mote
2005-10-31 05:08:36 UTC
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** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.

** SPOILER SPACE END **

We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?

I jokingly speculated Mat might pull out an eye to keep the 'Finns from
seeing through it, given his worries in Knife of Dreams, "A Village In
Shiota." But maybe it's not the 'Finns looking through HIS eyes that's
the main problem.

Rand is having vision problems too. In "A Plain Wooden Box," Nynaeve
Delves him and finds something wrong with his eyes. "The black flecks
were gone, but everything still seemed seen through water, and he
wanted to squint against a sun that appeared to glare ten times
brighter than it had." From "News For the Dragon," we know that Rand
and Moridin somehow have a linked awareness. And that brings up the
possibility that the black flecks could have something to do with
Moridin's saa. If Rand can see saa, what can Moridin see through
Rand's eyes? Even if that's not the case, if Moridin's "Fisher" sha'ra
piece is indeed a representation of Rand al'Thor, Rand will require a
bandage over his eyes. And if Nynaeve is afraid to try Healing his
eyes, it's a bad situation.

So maybe Mat gives up his eye in Randland's first live organ donation.
If Rand pulled an Oedipus Rex, could he pop one of Mat's eyes into a
socket, accept Healing, and see enough to weave saidin at his enemies?
Of course, clawing out your own eyes is much harder with only ONE
hand... Poor guy.

-- Rajiv
MkB
2005-11-01 05:34:26 UTC
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doubt it. I dont think RJ will go as far as organ donation. And its
probably just vision problem from the fireball or whatever Semeirage
threw at him.
solomonrex
2005-11-01 22:05:19 UTC
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A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.

just a thought.
Aaron
2005-11-02 17:20:16 UTC
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Post by solomonrex
A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.
How is that loony theory a "better idea," when the first time Rand
comments on his vision issue is right after a fireball explodes on his
hand?

Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....

-Aaron
NightBaron
2005-11-02 18:17:27 UTC
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Post by Aaron
Post by solomonrex
A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.
How is that loony theory a "better idea," when the first time Rand
comments on his vision issue is right after a fireball explodes on his
hand?
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....
I just think that Rand suffers from looking straight at the fireball,
just like one would suffer at looking straight at the sun for too long.
Rajiv Mote
2005-11-03 00:02:53 UTC
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Post by Aaron
Post by solomonrex
A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.
How is that loony theory a "better idea," when the first time Rand
comments on his vision issue is right after a fireball explodes on his
hand?
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Aaron
2005-11-03 16:10:57 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Aaron
Post by solomonrex
A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.
How is that loony theory a "better idea," when the first time Rand
comments on his vision issue is right after a fireball explodes on his
hand?
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Agreed. I thought it was awfully convenient. How come no AS wear
glasses? (IIRC) They must have *some* way of fixing eyesight, or else
RJ would have gone on for pages about Verin's glasses in every book.

-Aaron
Peter Reid
2005-11-03 16:52:39 UTC
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Post by Aaron
Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Aaron
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Agreed. I thought it was awfully convenient. How come no AS wear
glasses? (IIRC) They must have *some* way of fixing eyesight, or else
RJ would have gone on for pages about Verin's glasses in every book.
Actually, have we seen _any_ people in Randland who wear glasses? I
don't recall any. I'd say that the reason no one wears glasses is
because they aren't available. People who in our day "require" glasses
manage in other ways, just like people who are hard of hearing, etc.
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Indigo Wombat
2005-11-03 19:51:57 UTC
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Post by Peter Reid
Post by Aaron
Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Aaron
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's
future effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is
speaking at the Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Agreed. I thought it was awfully convenient. How come no AS wear
glasses? (IIRC) They must have *some* way of fixing eyesight, or else
RJ would have gone on for pages about Verin's glasses in every book.
Actually, have we seen _any_ people in Randland who wear glasses? I
don't recall any. I'd say that the reason no one wears glasses is
because they aren't available. People who in our day "require"
glasses manage in other ways, just like people who are hard of
hearing, etc.
The Sea Folk do. It's mentioned when Elayne and Nynaeve first book passage
on a Sea Folk ship, in tSR, from Tear to Tanchico. The Cargomaster wears
glasses, and Elayne sees them and describes them as a weird contraption like
nothing she's ever seen before.

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Marsupial of Might
Peter Reid
2005-11-03 20:06:15 UTC
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Post by Indigo Wombat
Post by Peter Reid
Post by Aaron
Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Aaron
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's
future effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is
speaking at the Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Agreed. I thought it was awfully convenient. How come no AS wear
glasses? (IIRC) They must have *some* way of fixing eyesight, or else
RJ would have gone on for pages about Verin's glasses in every book.
Actually, have we seen _any_ people in Randland who wear glasses? I
don't recall any. I'd say that the reason no one wears glasses is
because they aren't available. People who in our day "require"
glasses manage in other ways, just like people who are hard of
hearing, etc.
The Sea Folk do. It's mentioned when Elayne and Nynaeve first book passage
on a Sea Folk ship, in tSR, from Tear to Tanchico. The Cargomaster wears
glasses, and Elayne sees them and describes them as a weird contraption like
nothing she's ever seen before.
Okay, good catch. Fortunately though, it enhances my point. Seeing as
how Elayne had never seen glasses before, it's unlikely that anyone
other than the Sea Folk (in Randland proper, at least) has them; thus
the reason why we don't see AS using them. Recall also how many times
it's noted that being filled with the Source (saidar or saidin either
one) heighten's ones senses considerably; AS would need glasses much
less than the non-channelling population would.
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Tim Ellingson
2005-11-04 23:09:49 UTC
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The reason that no one wears glasses is that no one really needs them. Bad
vision is hereditary. During the Hundred Year war, all men would have been a
soldier for some period of time. Soldier with poor eyesite = dead soldier.
Survival of the fittest. I would imagine that 4-5 generations is enough time
to work out most genetic eyesite problems.
Tim Bruening
2010-03-29 06:52:47 UTC
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Post by Peter Reid
Post by Aaron
Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Aaron
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Agreed. I thought it was awfully convenient. How come no AS wear
glasses? (IIRC) They must have *some* way of fixing eyesight, or else
RJ would have gone on for pages about Verin's glasses in every book.
Actually, have we seen _any_ people in Randland who wear glasses? I
don't recall any. I'd say that the reason no one wears glasses is
because they aren't available. People who in our day "require" glasses
manage in other ways, just like people who are hard of hearing, etc.
But Randland does have lenses, used in spy glasses and Kin Tovere's telescope,
so eye glasses would be feasible.

Christer Jacobsson
2005-11-10 13:32:32 UTC
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Post by Aaron
Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Aaron
Post by solomonrex
A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.
How is that loony theory a "better idea," when the first time Rand
comments on his vision issue is right after a fireball explodes on his
hand?
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Agreed. I thought it was awfully convenient. How come no AS wear
glasses? (IIRC) They must have *some* way of fixing eyesight, or else
RJ would have gone on for pages about Verin's glasses in every book.
Now that you mentioned it, *does* glasses exist in Randland? They
should as looking-glasses and telescopes exist. But maybe an AS can
control the refracting properties of her eyes with the same yoga-like
technique she uses to suppress sweating (at least she don't *look*
like she's sweating anyway).

I must confess that I have a soft spot for Verin. She has a picture in
BBoBA (Big Boobs of Bad Ass? :-) ) which show her as brown-haired and
brown-skinned. Also she's short and plump ("She glided like a swan. A
stout swan"). She's a Brown sister (Soul Sister, Brown Sugar?) focused
on learning and knowledge. She would be a nice bedfellow, round, soft
and cuddly, if she was so inclined. And I think we have seen her
dressed in other colours than brown. Now since her description had
been fleshed out in TGH and TSR, a specific image of her comes beforme
my mind's eye whenever I read about her in the books - a short
brown-clad woman with a brown shawl laid over her hair like a nun's
veil and a brown lock peeping out. But though she may wear a brown
veil in my mental picture of her, she's NOT a demure woman but one
that can kick serious ass.

But as we are nering TG, bonds and customs should begin to break. For
example, it would be nice if some TAS breaks their customary dresscode
and take on something other than the statutory silk dress. Let's see a
Sister walking into the Tower wearing hotpants, a *tight* hot-pink top
with an arrow pointing down and 'BUN IN THE OVEN' printed above,
blood-red lipstick, ring in the nose and shaved skull. Best would be
if said Sister also was a Sitter, that would set some tongues
waggling... :-)
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Indigo Wombat
2005-11-10 17:02:33 UTC
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Post by Christer Jacobsson
Now that you mentioned it, *does* glasses exist in Randland? They
should as looking-glasses and telescopes exist.
As I cited in an earlier post, the Sea Folk have them, but their use hasn't
spread to the mainland.

--
The Indigo Wombat
Marsupial of Might
ModeratelyConfused
2005-11-10 17:23:00 UTC
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Post by Aaron
Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Aaron
Post by solomonrex
A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.
How is that loony theory a "better idea," when the first time Rand
comments on his vision issue is right after a fireball explodes on his
hand?
Also, do you really think saa interfere with vision by blurring it
nearly beyond recognition? This wouldn't bode well for Moridin's future
effectiveness. Also, he seems to know to whom he is speaking at the
Forsaken socials....
Odd that Nynaeve is so skittish about healing something so mundane.
Agreed. I thought it was awfully convenient. How come no AS wear
glasses? (IIRC) They must have *some* way of fixing eyesight, or else
RJ would have gone on for pages about Verin's glasses in every book.
Now that you mentioned it, *does* glasses exist in Randland? They should
as looking-glasses and telescopes exist. But maybe an AS can control the
refracting properties of her eyes with the same yoga-like technique she
uses to suppress sweating (at least she don't *look* like she's sweating
anyway).
I could have sworn that I read about one of the Seafolk men wearing glasses,
even though they weren't called glasses.

MC
solomonrex
2005-11-01 22:05:19 UTC
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A better idea is that Moridin and Rand are somehow linked now, and the
vision issue may be related to the saa.

just a thought.
Mark Erikson
2005-11-05 02:33:24 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
** SPOILER SPACE END **
We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?
Although this was my pet theory, when I think about it it seems obvious
that Mat will probably give his eye in payment for Moiraine's freedom
when he next runs into the Eelfinn.

He's made the mistake of not agreeing on a payment once, and got hung
from it, he's not likely to make that mistake again. And I doubt the
Eelfinn accept gold and silver, so his eye may be his only option.

-Mark Erikson
Rajiv Mote
2005-11-05 05:51:20 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
** SPOILER SPACE END **
We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?
Although this was my pet theory, when I think about it it seems obvious
that Mat will probably give his eye in payment for Moiraine's freedom
when he next runs into the Eelfinn.
He's made the mistake of not agreeing on a payment once, and got hung
from it, he's not likely to make that mistake again. And I doubt the
Eelfinn accept gold and silver, so his eye may be his only option.
-Mark Erikson
I agree the Eelfinn probably have no use for gold and silver but...
what use could they have for an eye? It's been emphasized in every
mention of "Snakes and Foxes" that the only way to win is to cheat. I
don't think Mat is going to make any kind of fair (or weird) exchange
with the 'finns. He has Thom's music to dazzle and Aludra's strikers
to blind. A bit of iron, and he's set.
Ryan Ward
2005-11-05 07:29:18 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Mark Erikson
Post by Rajiv Mote
** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
** SPOILER SPACE END **
We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?
Although this was my pet theory, when I think about it it seems obvious
that Mat will probably give his eye in payment for Moiraine's freedom
when he next runs into the Eelfinn.
He's made the mistake of not agreeing on a payment once, and got hung
from it, he's not likely to make that mistake again. And I doubt the
Eelfinn accept gold and silver, so his eye may be his only option.
-Mark Erikson
I agree the Eelfinn probably have no use for gold and silver but...
what use could they have for an eye? It's been emphasized in every
mention of "Snakes and Foxes" that the only way to win is to cheat. I
don't think Mat is going to make any kind of fair (or weird) exchange
with the 'finns. He has Thom's music to dazzle and Aludra's strikers
to blind. A bit of iron, and he's set.
All of a sudden I got the feeling that this going to end up being
worse than the Semirhage capture scene.

Like the 'finn take what Mat says extremely literally and when he says
"I will stay here" they end up plucking out an eyeball. "Gee,
Moiraine. What are the odds? (Hah. Hah.) It was a lucky meeting of
homophone and ta'veren luck!"

Ugh.

- Ward
Christer Jacobsson
2005-11-10 13:45:29 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
Post by Mark Erikson
Post by Rajiv Mote
** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
** SPOILER SPACE END **
We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?
Although this was my pet theory, when I think about it it seems obvious
that Mat will probably give his eye in payment for Moiraine's freedom
when he next runs into the Eelfinn.
He's made the mistake of not agreeing on a payment once, and got hung
from it, he's not likely to make that mistake again. And I doubt the
Eelfinn accept gold and silver, so his eye may be his only option.
-Mark Erikson
I agree the Eelfinn probably have no use for gold and silver but...
what use could they have for an eye? It's been emphasized in every
mention of "Snakes and Foxes" that the only way to win is to cheat. I
don't think Mat is going to make any kind of fair (or weird) exchange
with the 'finns. He has Thom's music to dazzle and Aludra's strikers
to blind. A bit of iron, and he's set.
It's four ingredients in the 'cheating' trick.

Courage to strengthen, fire to blind
Music to dazzle, iron to bind.

So he have to screw up his courage to the top and go forth ("Yet
Caesar shall go forth!") into ToG.
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Bladrak
2005-11-07 21:36:38 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
Rand is having vision problems too. In "A Plain Wooden Box," Nynaeve
Delves him and finds something wrong with his eyes. "The black flecks
were gone, but everything still seemed seen through water, and he
wanted to squint against a sun that appeared to glare ten times
brighter than it had." From "News For the Dragon," we know that Rand
and Moridin somehow have a linked awareness. And that brings up the
possibility that the black flecks could have something to do with
Moridin's saa. If Rand can see saa, what can Moridin see through
Rand's eyes? Even if that's not the case, if Moridin's "Fisher" sha'ra
piece is indeed a representation of Rand al'Thor, Rand will require a
bandage over his eyes. And if Nynaeve is afraid to try Healing his
eyes, it's a bad situation.
This wasn't the first time Rand had black flecks in front of his eyes.
In the beginning of chapter one of LoC when hes fighting the 6 men at
once, after he gets hit on the head his vision is "a blur of black
flecks." I thought of this the first time I heard of the saa.
Peter Reid
2005-11-08 18:42:42 UTC
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Post by Bladrak
Post by Rajiv Mote
Rand is having vision problems too. In "A Plain Wooden Box," Nynaeve
Delves him and finds something wrong with his eyes. "The black flecks
were gone, but everything still seemed seen through water, and he
wanted to squint against a sun that appeared to glare ten times
brighter than it had." From "News For the Dragon," we know that Rand
and Moridin somehow have a linked awareness. And that brings up the
possibility that the black flecks could have something to do with
Moridin's saa. If Rand can see saa, what can Moridin see through
Rand's eyes? Even if that's not the case, if Moridin's "Fisher" sha'ra
piece is indeed a representation of Rand al'Thor, Rand will require a
bandage over his eyes. And if Nynaeve is afraid to try Healing his
eyes, it's a bad situation.
This wasn't the first time Rand had black flecks in front of his eyes.
In the beginning of chapter one of LoC when hes fighting the 6 men at
once, after he gets hit on the head his vision is "a blur of black
flecks." I thought of this the first time I heard of the saa.
Please, people...in both instances where Rand sees "black flecks", it is
after he's suffered a blow to the head. This sort of phenomenon happens
in our world, too. There's _nothing_ in the books to indicate that
Ishy/Moridin's vision is affected by the saa.
--
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Rajiv Mote
2005-11-09 05:50:51 UTC
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Post by Peter Reid
Please, people...in both instances where Rand sees "black flecks", it is
after he's suffered a blow to the head. This sort of phenomenon happens
in our world, too. There's _nothing_ in the books to indicate that
Ishy/Moridin's vision is affected by the saa.
Untrue. From The Path of Daggers, "Unweaving" in Moridin's
point-of-view:

"He seized the True Power without thought, the saa billowing black
across his sight."

That said, I'll grant that Rand could be just "seeing spots" when he
hits his head, like most people do. But the claim that Rand and
Moridin have a linked awareness calls into question some details we
previously dismissed as mundane. It's by no means conclusive, just
another one of those sneaky details that could be taken two ways.

-- Rajiv
Tim Bruening
2005-11-12 06:06:14 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
** SPOILER SPACE END **
We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?
I jokingly speculated Mat might pull out an eye to keep the 'Finns from
seeing through it, given his worries in Knife of Dreams, "A Village In
Shiota." But maybe it's not the 'Finns looking through HIS eyes that's
the main problem.
Rand is having vision problems too. In "A Plain Wooden Box," Nynaeve
Delves him and finds something wrong with his eyes. "The black flecks
were gone, but everything still seemed seen through water, and he
wanted to squint against a sun that appeared to glare ten times
brighter than it had." From "News For the Dragon," we know that Rand
and Moridin somehow have a linked awareness. And that brings up the
possibility that the black flecks could have something to do with
Moridin's saa. If Rand can see saa, what can Moridin see through
Rand's eyes? Even if that's not the case, if Moridin's "Fisher" sha'ra
piece is indeed a representation of Rand al'Thor, Rand will require a
bandage over his eyes. And if Nynaeve is afraid to try Healing his
eyes, it's a bad situation.
So maybe Mat gives up his eye in Randland's first live organ donation.
If Rand pulled an Oedipus Rex, could he pop one of Mat's eyes into a
socket, accept Healing, and see enough to weave saidin at his enemies?
Of course, clawing out your own eyes is much harder with only ONE
hand... Poor guy.
Since both of Rand's natural parents are dead, how is he going to murder
his father and marry his mother?
Tim Bruening
2010-03-13 07:30:07 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
** SPOILER SPACE END **
We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?
I jokingly speculated Mat might pull out an eye to keep the 'Finns from
seeing through it, given his worries in Knife of Dreams, "A Village In
Shiota." But maybe it's not the 'Finns looking through HIS eyes that's
the main problem.
Rand is having vision problems too. In "A Plain Wooden Box," Nynaeve
Delves him and finds something wrong with his eyes. "The black flecks
were gone, but everything still seemed seen through water, and he
wanted to squint against a sun that appeared to glare ten times
brighter than it had." From "News For the Dragon," we know that Rand
and Moridin somehow have a linked awareness. And that brings up the
possibility that the black flecks could have something to do with
Moridin's saa. If Rand can see saa, what can Moridin see through
Rand's eyes? Even if that's not the case, if Moridin's "Fisher" sha'ra
piece is indeed a representation of Rand al'Thor, Rand will require a
bandage over his eyes. And if Nynaeve is afraid to try Healing his
eyes, it's a bad situation.
So maybe Mat gives up his eye in Randland's first live organ donation.
If Rand pulled an Oedipus Rex, could he pop one of Mat's eyes into a
socket, accept Healing, and see enough to weave saidin at his enemies?
Of course, clawing out your own eyes is much harder with only ONE
hand... Poor guy.
Adapt Semihage's blood transfusion weave into an eye transplant weave?
Tim Bruening
2010-03-24 21:05:11 UTC
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Post by Rajiv Mote
** SPOILER SPACE BEGIN **
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten
when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the
Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose
above the broken mountain named Dragonmount. The wind was not the
beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings o the turning of
the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
** SPOILER SPACE END **
We know that Mat will continue in Odin's footsteps (after hanging from
the Tree of Life) and lose an eye. We've seen Viewings and Dreams of
an eye on a balance and of him with his hat pulled low and blood
streaming from his face. The Aelfinn said he'd have to give up "half
the light of the world to save the world." But how?
I jokingly speculated Mat might pull out an eye to keep the 'Finns from
seeing through it, given his worries in Knife of Dreams, "A Village In
Shiota." But maybe it's not the 'Finns looking through HIS eyes that's
the main problem.
Rand is having vision problems too. In "A Plain Wooden Box," Nynaeve
Delves him and finds something wrong with his eyes. "The black flecks
were gone, but everything still seemed seen through water, and he
wanted to squint against a sun that appeared to glare ten times
brighter than it had." From "News For the Dragon," we know that Rand
and Moridin somehow have a linked awareness. And that brings up the
possibility that the black flecks could have something to do with
Moridin's saa. If Rand can see saa, what can Moridin see through
Rand's eyes? Even if that's not the case, if Moridin's "Fisher" sha'ra
piece is indeed a representation of Rand al'Thor, Rand will require a
bandage over his eyes. And if Nynaeve is afraid to try Healing his
eyes, it's a bad situation.
So maybe Mat gives up his eye in Randland's first live organ donation.
If Rand pulled an Oedipus Rex, could he pop one of Mat's eyes into a
socket, accept Healing, and see enough to weave saidin at his enemies?
Of course, clawing out your own eyes is much harder with only ONE
hand... Poor guy.
I was figuring that "Half the light of the world" might mean that Mat
might have to sacrifice half the world's population. Sacrifice of an
eye seems much too small for the phrase "Half the light of the world".
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