The Fantasy Novel Writers Exam

[Rifty]

So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."

The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.

I'm not gonna spoil the whole list, but you can read it here.

http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/

I found number 33 horribly amusing.

Anyway, thought I'd share.

By the way, I failed the test. On only ONE question.

-Rifty

[t***@rci.rogers.com]

Post by Rifty
So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."
The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.
I'm not gonna spoil the whole list, but you can read it here.
http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/
I found number 33 horribly amusing.
Anyway, thought I'd share.
By the way, I failed the test. On only ONE question.

If any fantasy writer could actually pass that test they would really
have something worth reading.



Todd

[David Chapman]

Post by t***@rci.rogers.com

Post by Rifty
So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."
The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.
I'm not gonna spoil the whole list, but you can read it here.
http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/
I found number 33 horribly amusing.
Anyway, thought I'd share.
By the way, I failed the test. On only ONE question.

If any fantasy writer could actually pass that test they would really
have something worth reading.

IMO, Louise Cooper's Indigo Saga passes the test. You may consider it to
fail #29 because it was a planned sequence of eight, but I don't - I think
it's the cliche of the numbers that matters, not that you're writing more
than one book. (And yes, it *is* worth reading.)


Interestingly, William R Forstchen's novel Arena fails on only two counts in
and of itself - "young man comes to power and defeats supreme evil" and
"big, slow, kindhearted warrior type" (though he's not actually a warrior,
but a mage). It does answer "yes" to three other questions, but when you're
writing a novel based on Magic: the Gathering it's difficult to avoid
fireballs, mana and being a WotC work-for-hire. I find it amusing that a
novel of a type the composer of this exam was so eager to take the piss out
of and written by an author-for-hire should have a better success rate than
almost any "real" fantasy novel.

[Tom Kelsall]

On 10 Sep 2005 14:14:18 -0700, the keys started rattling, and "Rifty"

Post by Rifty
So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."
The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.
I'm not gonna spoil the whole list, but you can read it here.
http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/
I found number 33 horribly amusing.
Anyway, thought I'd share.
By the way, I failed the test. On only ONE question.
-Rifty

I think they've covered every possible plot line for a book that could
still be called "Fantasy". 33 had me rolling with laughter.

If one can write Fantasy and still pass this exam, one must be a
bloody genius :-P

[Ilya the Recusant]

In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Tom Kelsall

Post by Tom Kelsall
On 10 Sep 2005 14:14:18 -0700, the keys started rattling, and "Rifty"

Post by Rifty
So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."
The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.
I'm not gonna spoil the whole list, but you can read it here.
http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/
I found number 33 horribly amusing.
Anyway, thought I'd share.
By the way, I failed the test. On only ONE question.
-Rifty

I think they've covered every possible plot line for a book that could
still be called "Fantasy". 33 had me rolling with laughter.
If one can write Fantasy and still pass this exam, one must be a
bloody genius :-P

Questions 74 and 75 are excellent.

Ilya the Recusant
-----------------
"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J

[Dan Weiner]

Post by Ilya the Recusant
In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Tom Kelsall

Post by Tom Kelsall
On 10 Sep 2005 14:14:18 -0700, the keys started rattling, and "Rifty"

Post by Rifty
So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."
The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.
I'm not gonna spoil the whole list, but you can read it here.
http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/
I found number 33 horribly amusing.
Anyway, thought I'd share.
By the way, I failed the test. On only ONE question.
-Rifty

I think they've covered every possible plot line for a book that could
still be called "Fantasy". 33 had me rolling with laughter.
If one can write Fantasy and still pass this exam, one must be a
bloody genius :-P

Questions 74 and 75 are excellent.

My favorites are 26, 39+40, and 74+75.

[loial]

Post by Tom Kelsall
If one can write Fantasy and still pass this exam, one must be a
bloody genius :-P

There were some good questions in there, but it almost sounds like they
don't think ANYONE should EVER write fantasy.

[m***@starmail.com]

Can anyone think of a relatively recent fantasy novel/series that would
pass his exam? Jordan fails, obviously, GRRM fails questions 30 and
32, (struggles to remember any other fantasy he's read in the past ten
years that was worth remembering....)....

Oh- the Discworld series fails 62 and 19 (the Henna-haired Harriden).

Any others?

[m***@starmail.com]

Actually, I think "A Song for Arbonne" by GGKay passes. Although his
Fionvar Tapestry fails on 35.

[David Chapman]

Post by m***@starmail.com
Oh- the Discworld series fails 62 and 19 (the Henna-haired Harriden).

Discworld is deliberate parody. It could break them all and get away with
it.

[Dan Weiner]

Post by m***@starmail.com
Can anyone think of a relatively recent fantasy novel/series that would
pass his exam? Jordan fails, obviously, GRRM fails questions 30 and
32, (struggles to remember any other fantasy he's read in the past ten
years that was worth remembering....)....
Oh- the Discworld series fails 62 and 19 (the Henna-haired Harriden).
Any others?

I once read a book called "The Barbed Coil" by J.V. Jones. It was a
while ago, but I think it passes everything except 35. I'm looking at
the book now, and I just noticed this on the back:

"J.V. Jones is a striking writer...wonderful."
---Robert Jordan

Anyway, not a great book, but enjoyable simply because it was quite
original and not in any way a LotR clone.

[Ilya the Recusant]

In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Dan Weiner

Post by Dan Weiner

Post by m***@starmail.com
Can anyone think of a relatively recent fantasy novel/series that would
pass his exam? Jordan fails, obviously, GRRM fails questions 30 and
32, (struggles to remember any other fantasy he's read in the past ten
years that was worth remembering....)....
Oh- the Discworld series fails 62 and 19 (the Henna-haired Harriden).
Any others?

I once read a book called "The Barbed Coil" by J.V. Jones. It was a
while ago, but I think it passes everything except 35. I'm looking at
"J.V. Jones is a striking writer...wonderful."
---Robert Jordan
Anyway, not a great book, but enjoyable simply because it was quite
original and not in any way a LotR clone.

Perhaps books by Mieville or Zelazny or Delaney, then....


Ilya the Recusant
-----------------
"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
----
www.livejournal.com/users/ohilya

[Sir Thursday]

Apart from multiple failures on question 9, occasional 27s, and 29,
Steven Erikson's "Malazan Book of the Fallen" series passes the test.

It is original enough not to fit the mould on most of the questions.

Sir Thursday

[tr]

Post by Sir Thursday
Apart from multiple failures on question 9, occasional 27s, and 29,
Steven Erikson's "Malazan Book of the Fallen" series passes the test.
It is original enough not to fit the mould on most of the questions.
Sir Thursday

I don't see where Michael Moorcock's "Elric of Melnibone" series fails
except on number 9. Of course you don't find that out until the last book.

[Tux Wonder-Dog]

Post by Rifty
So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."
The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.
I'm not gonna spoil the whole list, but you can read it here.
http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/
I found number 33 horribly amusing.
Anyway, thought I'd share.
By the way, I failed the test. On only ONE question.
-Rifty

I liked 63!

And, China Mieville's "Iron Council", which I'm currently reading at the
moment, doesn't appear to fail that exam! Of course, Eddison's "The Worm
Ourobouros" doesn't either. Neither does Orson Scott Card's "Alvin Maker"
series.

Wesley Parish

[m***@starmail.com]

Of course, Eddison's "The Worm Ourobouros"
doesn't either.

It fails number 1. Nothing happens in the first 50 pages, the 50 pages
after that, or the 50 pages after that. At the end of the book,
everything is still exactly where it started. The most forgettable
book I've ever read, IIRC.

[Tux Wonder-Dog]

Post by m***@starmail.com

Of course, Eddison's "The Worm Ourobouros"
doesn't either.

It fails number 1. Nothing happens in the first 50 pages, the 50 pages
after that, or the 50 pages after that. At the end of the book,
everything is still exactly where it started. The most forgettable
book I've ever read, IIRC.

I neglected to mention Clive Barker's "The Hellbound Heart", "Weaveworld"
and "Imajica".

They may skirt some of the strictures mentioned, but the Cenobites in "The
Hellbound Heart" are not interested in anyone besides those foolhardy
enough to contact them - they're no threat to the ROTW;
the imprisoned spirit/angel in "Weaveworld" imagines its been sent to
destroy the world, but is reminded of its true nature and then goes off and
does its thing;
in "Imajica", there is a threat to destroy the world, there is a superhuman
human in hiding - from shame and humiliation - and he almost does destroy
the world, there is a certain amount of feminism in the goddesses being
freed and in the repulsive mind-slavery of Judith - but with all the other
things happening, you tend not to notice them.

Wesley Parish

[Karl-Johan Noren]

Post by Rifty
So, Rinkworks.com is in the middle of their September Blitz, where he
updates the site with new stuff every weekday. Usually an exciting time
for us known as "Rinkies." Today, he introduced a new Humor Bite called
"The Fantasy Noevel Writers Exam."
The rules are, if you can answer yes to any of these questions, you
shouldn't write a fantasy novel.

Well, the Earthsea trilogy doesn't fail the test (you can make
a case for 4, but it'd be weak).

_The Curse of Chalion_ and _Paladin of Souls_ doesn't fail the
test.

Steven Brust's Dragaera books arguably evades all the pitfalls.

Eric Flint's series Joe's World also evades most questions, and
has decent answers to the rest.

[m***@starmail.com]

Hmmm..._The Belgariad_ fails numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 (although you
don't find out he's one until the next series), 13 (Durnik), 29, 68 (if
you stretch the definition of race)....

Are there any books that fail on more counts than that? (Other than
RJ, since the exam was written with him in mind.)

_A Song for Arbonne_ comes close to failing on #10, although it's no
secret.

[Antonio Contreras]

Post by m***@starmail.com
Hmmm..._The Belgariad_ fails numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 (although you
don't find out he's one until the next series), 13 (Durnik), 29, 68 (if
you stretch the definition of race)....
Are there any books that fail on more counts than that? (Other than
RJ, since the exam was written with him in mind.)
_A Song for Arbonne_ comes close to failing on #10, although it's no
secret.

_The Dragonlance Chronicles_ fails numbers 8, 9, 12, 13, 16, 18, 19,
20, 21, 23, 28, 34, 39, 41, 42, 44, 48, 50, 52, 59, 62, 70, 72.

I think that a number of questions were directly aimed at the
Chronicle, specially number 34.

[Davian]

Post by Antonio Contreras

Post by m***@starmail.com
Hmmm..._The Belgariad_ fails numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 (although you
don't find out he's one until the next series), 13 (Durnik), 29, 68 (if
you stretch the definition of race)....
Are there any books that fail on more counts than that? (Other than
RJ, since the exam was written with him in mind.)
_A Song for Arbonne_ comes close to failing on #10, although it's no
secret.

_The Dragonlance Chronicles_ fails numbers 8, 9, 12, 13, 16, 18, 19,
20, 21, 23, 28, 34, 39, 41, 42, 44, 48, 50, 52, 59, 62, 70, 72.

36 and 45 as well. IIRC, WotC bought out TSR. So they're really the same
thing for the purposes of the question.

Post by Antonio Contreras
I think that a number of questions were directly aimed at the
Chronicle, specially number 34.

Definitely.

I think the questions were mostly to make fun of a few authors. Jordan,
Eddings, Wiess / Hickman and Salvatore (6, 13, 20, 23, 28, 29, 36, 37, 39, 41,
42, 45, 48, 57, 58, 66, 72) were specifically targeted. Any others that it
seemed to be aimed at that I missed?

[David Chapman]

Post by Davian
I think the questions were mostly to make fun of a few authors. Jordan,
Eddings, Wiess / Hickman and Salvatore (6, 13, 20, 23, 28, 29, 36, 37,
39, 41, 42, 45, 48, 57, 58, 66, 72) were specifically targeted. Any
others that it seemed to be aimed at that I missed?

Stephen Donaldson and Piers Anthony were also specifically targetted, with
"Does your novel contain characters transported from the real world to a
fantasy realm?" and "Does a large portion of the humor in your novel consist
of puns?" respectively.

[m***@starmail.com]

Stephen Donaldson ... with "Does your novel
contain characters transported from the real
world to a fantasy realm?"

This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery. Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

[David Chapman]

Post by m***@starmail.com

Stephen Donaldson ... with "Does your novel
contain characters transported from the real
world to a fantasy realm?"

This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery. Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

Read it? I haven't even heard of it.

[Karl-Johan Noren]

Post by David Chapman

Post by m***@starmail.com
This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery. Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

Read it? I haven't even heard of it.

Joel Rosenberg, _Guardians of the Flame_.

[m***@starmail.com]

Post by Karl-Johan Noren
Joel Rosenberg, _Guardians of the Flame_.

That's the one. Thanks.

[David Chapman]

Post by Karl-Johan Noren

Post by David Chapman

Post by m***@starmail.com
This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery. Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

Read it? I haven't even heard of it.

Joel Rosenberg, _Guardians of the Flame_.

I'm still no closer, but thanks for the fill-in anyway.

<Google>

Holy Jesus fuck, my eyes hurt. That artwork's even worse than Sweet's. And
look, we're using the cliched Diablo/Planescape font!

Not that I'm leaping to conclusions or anything, but that book must number
among the shittiest of the shitty. Why would anyone *need* to poke fun at
it?

<Googles further>

Hmmm - it appears that the author repeatedly insists on describing how
people fart as they die. Not a good sign.

[John Alt]

Post by David Chapman

Post by Karl-Johan Noren

Post by David Chapman

Post by m***@starmail.com
This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery. Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

Read it? I haven't even heard of it.

Joel Rosenberg, _Guardians of the Flame_.

I'm still no closer, but thanks for the fill-in anyway.
<Google>
Holy Jesus fuck, my eyes hurt. That artwork's even worse than Sweet's. And
look, we're using the cliched Diablo/Planescape font!
Not that I'm leaping to conclusions or anything, but that book must number
among the shittiest of the shitty. Why would anyone *need* to poke fun at
it?
<Googles further>
Hmmm - it appears that the author repeatedly insists on describing how
people fart as they die. Not a good sign.

If you actually want to try reading some of it, for experimental
purposes only, try...

http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200302/0743435893.htm?blurb

It really deserves to be on this list.

[David Chapman]

Post by John Alt

Post by David Chapman
Hmmm - it appears that the author repeatedly insists on describing how
people fart as they die. Not a good sign.

If you actually want to try reading some of it, for experimental
purposes only, try...
http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200302/0743435893.htm?blurb

That's the page I found, John, but thanks. And when I say "thanks", I
really mean "Fuck you straight up the ass with a splintered broomstick for
pointing me to this eye-gouging tripe that makes me wish I'd never learned
to read" - though I mean that in the nicest possible way, of course. It's
real Eye of Argon stuff, isn't it?

[m***@starmail.com]

Post by David Chapman
Holy Jesus fuck, my eyes hurt. That artwork's
even worse than Sweet's. And look, we're
using the cliched Diablo/Planescape font!

Must be a new edition.

Post by David Chapman
Not that I'm leaping to conclusions or anything,
but that book must number among the shittiest
of the shitty.

Actually, no- it's better than most fantasy. It's no GRRM, but it's
well above a lot of other books I could name (or not name, as I never
bother remembering the titles of books that don't impress me).

[David Chapman]

Post by m***@starmail.com

Post by David Chapman
Holy Jesus fuck, my eyes hurt. That artwork's
even worse than Sweet's. And look, we're
using the cliched Diablo/Planescape font!

Must be a new edition.

Post by David Chapman
Not that I'm leaping to conclusions or anything,
but that book must number among the shittiest
of the shitty.

Actually, no- it's better than most fantasy. It's no GRRM, but it's
well above a lot of other books I could name (or not name, as I never
bother remembering the titles of books that don't impress me).

You are a Terry Brooks fan, and I claim my first place in the queue to kick
you in the testicles.

[m***@starmail.com]

Post by David Chapman
You are a Terry Brooks fan,

And you are one of those pathetically pretentious twats who insist that
every book they've ever read was horrible, so that everyone on the
newsgroups will be impressed by your erudition and good taste. Anybody
who actually likes a book (except possibly works like Anthony's Planet
of Tarot books, which you've been drooling over since Grade 8) is
automatically a "fanboy" with obviously inferior taste.

Post by David Chapman
I claim my first place in the queue to kick
you in the testicles.

You'll find it easier to kick people in the testicles if you stop
sucking on your own.

[David Chapman]

Post by m***@starmail.com

Post by David Chapman
You are a Terry Brooks fan,

And you are one of those pathetically pretentious twats who insist that
every book they've ever read was horrible,

No, just the really shitty ones with no redeeming features.

Since one of the few points on which all this group's regulars agree with me
is that Brooks and Goodkind suck shit through a straw, you may want to find
another newsgroup before someone *nasty* finds you. I recommend
alt.fan.robert-jordan - that's where the idiots tend to wind up.

[m***@starmail.com]

Post by David Chapman
Since one of the few points on which all this
group's regulars agree with me is that Brooks
and Goodkind suck shit through a straw

Speaking of idiots, perhaps you'd like to go through my posts and tell
me where I said anything positive about Brooks or Goodkind?

You want "the shittiest of the shitty"? Read Piers Anthony's Planet of
Tarot (or just all his little ego-preening postscripts to his
Immortality series); try "Fools Errant", or a pair of books known as
"The Silver Call Duology"; see if you can wade through Neil Hancock's
"Circle of Light" series or the complete works of Lovecraft (yes, some
of it's gold, but some of it's manure).

Then explain to me why I'm a "Terry Brooks fan" for saying Rothenberg's
not too bad.

[Jasper Janssen]

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:42:16 +0100, "David Chapman"

Post by David Chapman
Since one of the few points on which all this group's regulars agree with me
is that Brooks and Goodkind suck shit through a straw, you may want to find
another newsgroup before someone *nasty* finds you. I recommend
alt.fan.robert-jordan - that's where the idiots tend to wind up.

You know, while most of this group agrees with you that Goodkind sucks
syphiolitic donkey dicks and that Brooks is about as original as
Dragonlance and just as badly done as Dragonlance, too, the supposition
you seem to be working from that that leads us to verbally flay those who
disagree would find much less of an audience.

In other words, stop being an ass.


Jasper

[Ilya the Recusant]

In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Jasper

Post by Jasper Janssen
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:42:16 +0100, "David Chapman"

Post by David Chapman
Since one of the few points on which all this group's regulars agree with me
is that Brooks and Goodkind suck shit through a straw, you may want to find
another newsgroup before someone *nasty* finds you. I recommend
alt.fan.robert-jordan - that's where the idiots tend to wind up.

You know, while most of this group agrees with you that Goodkind sucks
syphiolitic donkey dicks and that Brooks is about as original as
Dragonlance and just as badly done as Dragonlance, too, the supposition
you seem to be working from that that leads us to verbally flay those who
disagree would find much less of an audience.
In other words, stop being an ass.

Isn't that against some kind of unspoken rule here?

And to quote bruce - raswrj has killfiles, strict adherence to
netiquette, etc. afrj has fun.

Post by Jasper Janssen
Jasper

Ilya the Recusant
-----------------
"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
----
www.livejournal.com/users/ohilya

[Jasper Janssen]

Post by Ilya the Recusant
In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Jasper

Post by Jasper Janssen
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:42:16 +0100, "David Chapman"

Post by David Chapman
Since one of the few points on which all this group's regulars agree with me
is that Brooks and Goodkind suck shit through a straw, you may want to find
another newsgroup before someone *nasty* finds you. I recommend
alt.fan.robert-jordan - that's where the idiots tend to wind up.

You know, while most of this group agrees with you that Goodkind sucks
syphiolitic donkey dicks and that Brooks is about as original as
Dragonlance and just as badly done as Dragonlance, too, the supposition
you seem to be working from that that leads us to verbally flay those who
disagree would find much less of an audience.
In other words, stop being an ass.

Isn't that against some kind of unspoken rule here?

No, it really isn't.

Post by Ilya the Recusant
And to quote bruce - raswrj has killfiles, strict adherence to
netiquette, etc. afrj has fun.

And so rasfrwj is actually readable, and afrj is a bunch of fart jokes
without capitalisation that takes more effort to read than any other three
newsgroups.

C'est la vie.


Jasper

[Jasper Janssen]

Post by Karl-Johan Noren

Post by David Chapman

Post by m***@starmail.com
This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery. Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

Read it? I haven't even heard of it.

Joel Rosenberg, _Guardians of the Flame_.

Is that what that series is about? I've got book 3 of that on my Baen
webscriptions thingy and I'm like 4 chapters in without a clue what the
hell the world is about.

... Yikes, I haven't fed the cats yet. Be back later.


Jasper

[Tim Bruening]

Post by m***@starmail.com

Stephen Donaldson ... with "Does your novel
contain characters transported from the real
world to a fantasy realm?"

This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery. Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

Did they travel back in time to the 1860s?

[Will in New Haven]

Post by Tim Bruening

Post by m***@starmail.com

Stephen Donaldson ... with "Does your novel
contain characters transported from the real
world to a fantasy realm?"

This may also have been aimed at the author of the series where the
high school students get sent into their roleplaying game by their
teacher, and fight to end slavery.  Can't remember any names off-hand,
but I think most people here will have read it.

Did they travel back in time to the 1860s?

It was college students transported to an alternate universe in Joel
Rosenberg's GUARDIANS OF THE FLAME series.

--
Will in New Haven

[Andrew B. Gross]

Post by Davian
I think the questions were mostly to make fun of a few authors. Jordan,
Eddings, Wiess / Hickman and Salvatore (6, 13, 20, 23, 28, 29, 36, 37, 39, 41,
42, 45, 48, 57, 58, 66, 72) were specifically targeted. Any others that it
seemed to be aimed at that I missed?

I think Dennis McKiernan and Terry Brooks were both probably targeted by a
couple of the questions in the late 30s early 40s range, but it's been so
long since I read their books and threw them in the nearest trash can that I
can't be certain.

[Tux Wonder-Dog]

Post by Andrew B. Gross

Post by Davian
I think the questions were mostly to make fun of a few authors. Jordan,
Eddings, Wiess / Hickman and Salvatore (6, 13, 20, 23, 28, 29, 36, 37, 39, 41,
42, 45, 48, 57, 58, 66, 72) were specifically targeted. Any others that it
seemed to be aimed at that I missed?

I think Dennis McKiernan and Terry Brooks were both probably targeted by a
couple of the questions in the late 30s early 40s range, but it's been so
long since I read their books and threw them in the nearest trash can that
I can't be certain.

Oh God! Terry Brooks! He only made sense - as little as you might expect a
legalist to make - when he dropped his "Let's rip off Tolkien" ambit and
series and wrote his "What the h*() would a lawyer make of a magical world
he's just bought?" series.

Wesley Parish

[m***@starmail.com]

Post by Antonio Contreras
_The Dragonlance Chronicles_ fails numbers
8, 9, 12, 13, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, 28, 34, 39,
41, 42, 44, 48, 50, 52, 59, 62, 70, 72.

It is a testament to the power of the mind that I had managed to
completely drive Dragonlunch out of my memory.

The horror, the horror....