Random Questions and FAQ stuff

[RiftTraveler]

Stuff for possible FAQ Inclusion, and random questions of stuff I'm
not sure about

Alright, Newbie alert, so I guess that's fair warning. Now, I know
that these have more then likely been discussed, but I

1. Couldn't find any of this information in the FAQ, and
2. Am not going to browse through six or seven years worth of posts on
this message board to see if they have

so you'll just have to put up with some repitition, and furthermore, I
would humbly and politely ask you not to flame me, if these have been
discussed before.

1. Anath is Tuon's soe'feia, which translates into Truthspeeker.
Sophia, is, I believe, the Greek word for truth. I could be wrong
about that, but I'm pretty sure it is.

2. At the Forsaken Coffee Hour, we have this observation from
Demandred about Graendal- "Except for her streith, her adornments all
came from this age, firedrops in her golden hair, a large ruby
dangling between her breasts, ornate golden bracelets on both wrists.
And something quite strange, that Demandred wondered whether anyone
else had noticed. A simple ring of gold on the little finger of her
left hand. Simple was never associated with Graendal."

Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?

3. In TSR and TFoH, Rand makes the observation that Aviendha has a
bracelet of white ivory, but has no idea who gave it to her, and she
won't tell him, and it irritates the hell out of him. Who gave it to
her, and what is it's significance? It comes up again in [WH, 12, A
Lily in Winter, pg 293], with still no explanation. Did I miss
something?

4. Again, at the Forsaken Coffee Hour, Dashivan'gar says "Simple
probabilities... Next time he will be killed or taken." Haliman'gar
then snaps back with "You are going to depend on chance?... You were
responsible for watching him, Osan'gar... you and Demandred." Which
just adds more support to the Demandred in the Black Tower evidence,
but if that's so, who is he? We know his persona hasn't been seen
onscreen, but parsing out what that actually says, is it possible that
we have heard him mentioned, if not actually seen? I'd like to think
so, and to that end, I'd like to throw in a candidate- someone who has
been mentioned as being at the Black Tower, not seen onstage, and
someone who has a major role there. Who fits this bill?

Henre Haslin, Swordmaster of the Black Tower. The first we hear of
him, AFAIK, is when Rand asks where he is, and Taim tells him he was
sent away, cause the men don't need to learn the sword if they can
channel. Rand tells off Taim, and orders him to get him back, since
they may need the skill if they are ever shielded or cut off. We hear
him referenced several times after that, but never seen on screen.

This fits in, I believe, with Demandred being at the Black Tower,
presumably in a position of Power. The only major problem with this
theory, is this: why would he just sit and teach guys how to use the
sword? Why not be more active in the channelling bit?

Perhaps because Taim, his little minion buddy, is doing that, as well
as Dashiva, who was in with Rand there until he got himself blowed up
real good. That way, Demandred can concentrate more on subverting the
Black Tower from within, while Dashiva keeps an eye on Rand wherever
he goes.

I don't know. I'm probably wrong, but it's my pet looney theory, so
let me have it.

Anyway, those are my random thoughts, and conjectures and questions.
Any help anyone else could give would be appreciated, and as I said
earlier, please dont' flame me if these have all been discussed
before.

Rift "Now my life is Rosy" Traveler

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by RiftTraveler
3. In TSR and TFoH, Rand makes the observation that Aviendha has a
bracelet of white ivory, but has no idea who gave it to her, and she
won't tell him, and it irritates the hell out of him. Who gave it to
her, and what is it's significance? It comes up again in [WH, 12, A
Lily in Winter, pg 293], with still no explanation. Did I miss
something?

Bracelet was from Rand and the necklace from Egwene, IIRC. Rand didn't
know who had given her the necklace.

[RiftTraveler]

Alright alright alright, I got confused. my apologies all around.
Sofia is Wisdom. My bad. Rand gave her the bracelet, Egwene gave her
the necklace. I understand. My fault.

Man, that was amusing, seeing all those posts that said the same
thing. Freaky-deaky baby.

Anyway, since those two questions have been answered (and thank you
very much), onto the Henre Haslin thing.

Yes, Haslin was sent away, and yes, he has a verifiable background,
but could it not be that the plan is for Taim to send him away, so
Demandred can kill him quietly and then come in and take his place?
Taim's dislike of him could be an act. Or perhaps Taim just doesn't
like Demandred. If he's been smacked down by Demandred enough times,
that would encourage hate, I'd think.

*shrugs* Haslin is real, gets sent away, killed, and replaced by
Demandred, who then goes about training male channellers how to use a
sword (which he would know, being a general from the AoL) and maybe
using a little bit of compulsion to get certain things accomplished.

The question can be raised that Demandred might not look anything like
Haslin, but that can be rebutted with one swift pat answer.

Invert and reverse the weaves. As Uncle Cracker is reputed to have
said "As long as no one knows, then no body will care." And if he
does do some channelling every now and then? who's gonna notice?
You're at the Bloody Black Tower.

So, thank you for the numerous post replies to the first couple of
questions. I appreciate them.

Rift "Talk to me" Traveler

[Zach Davis]

Post by RiftTraveler
1. Anath is Tuon's soe'feia, which translates into Truthspeeker.
Sophia, is, I believe, the Greek word for truth. I could be wrong
about that, but I'm pretty sure it is.

Actually, I think it's Greek for wisdom.

[NaCl]

Post by RiftTraveler
Stuff for possible FAQ Inclusion, and random questions of stuff I'm
not sure about
Alright, Newbie alert, so I guess that's fair warning. Now, I know
that these have more then likely been discussed, but I
1. Couldn't find any of this information in the FAQ, and
2. Am not going to browse through six or seven years worth of posts on
this message board to see if they have
so you'll just have to put up with some repitition, and furthermore, I
would humbly and politely ask you not to flame me, if these have been
discussed before.
1. Anath is Tuon's soe'feia, which translates into Truthspeeker.
Sophia, is, I believe, the Greek word for truth. I could be wrong
about that, but I'm pretty sure it is.
2. At the Forsaken Coffee Hour, we have this observation from
Demandred about Graendal- "Except for her streith, her adornments all
came from this age, firedrops in her golden hair, a large ruby
dangling between her breasts, ornate golden bracelets on both wrists.
And something quite strange, that Demandred wondered whether anyone
else had noticed. A simple ring of gold on the little finger of her
left hand. Simple was never associated with Graendal."
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?
3. In TSR and TFoH, Rand makes the observation that Aviendha has a
bracelet of white ivory, but has no idea who gave it to her, and she
won't tell him, and it irritates the hell out of him. Who gave it to
her, and what is it's significance? It comes up again in [WH, 12, A
Lily in Winter, pg 293], with still no explanation. Did I miss
something?
4. Again, at the Forsaken Coffee Hour, Dashivan'gar says "Simple
probabilities... Next time he will be killed or taken." Haliman'gar
then snaps back with "You are going to depend on chance?... You were
responsible for watching him, Osan'gar... you and Demandred." Which
just adds more support to the Demandred in the Black Tower evidence,
but if that's so, who is he? We know his persona hasn't been seen
onscreen, but parsing out what that actually says, is it possible that
we have heard him mentioned, if not actually seen? I'd like to think
so, and to that end, I'd like to throw in a candidate- someone who has
been mentioned as being at the Black Tower, not seen onstage, and
someone who has a major role there. Who fits this bill?
Henre Haslin, Swordmaster of the Black Tower. The first we hear of
him, AFAIK, is when Rand asks where he is, and Taim tells him he was
sent away, cause the men don't need to learn the sword if they can
channel. Rand tells off Taim, and orders him to get him back, since
they may need the skill if they are ever shielded or cut off. We hear
him referenced several times after that, but never seen on screen.
This fits in, I believe, with Demandred being at the Black Tower,
presumably in a position of Power. The only major problem with this
theory, is this: why would he just sit and teach guys how to use the
sword? Why not be more active in the channelling bit?
Perhaps because Taim, his little minion buddy, is doing that, as well
as Dashiva, who was in with Rand there until he got himself blowed up
real good. That way, Demandred can concentrate more on subverting the
Black Tower from within, while Dashiva keeps an eye on Rand wherever
he goes.
I don't know. I'm probably wrong, but it's my pet looney theory, so
let me have it.
Anyway, those are my random thoughts, and conjectures and questions.
Any help anyone else could give would be appreciated, and as I said
earlier, please dont' flame me if these have all been discussed
before.
Rift "Now my life is Rosy" Traveler

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snip:

" so you'll just have to put up with some repitition, and furthermore, I
would humbly and politely ask you not to flame me, if these have been
discussed before."


Clearly you have wandered into the wrong usenet group. Run while you can.

[Paul W. Lints]

Subject: Re: Random Questions and FAQ stuff
Date: 6/25/2004 5:21 PM Pacific Standard Time
" so you'll just have to put up with some repitition, and furthermore, I
would humbly and politely ask you not to flame me, if these have been
discussed before."
Clearly you have wandered into the wrong usenet group. Run while you can.

If this was in a TAN post, you would have to worry about flames. On Topic
posts don't really bring flames from regulars anymore, as they don't seem to
bother reading them.

Oh, and here is a friendly hint. Normally you snip all the text you are not
replying to, as opposed to including everything and then snipping out what you
are replying and tacking it on at the bottom.

[Paul W. Lints]

Subject: Random Questions and FAQ stuff
Date: 6/25/2004 3:50 PM Pacific Standard Time

<snip>

1. Anath is Tuon's soe'feia, which translates into Truthspeeker.
Sophia, is, I believe, the Greek word for truth. I could be wrong
about that, but I'm pretty sure it is.

Wisdom, actually. I thought this was touched upon in the FAQ, but I could just
be thinking of old posts.

2. At the Forsaken Coffee Hour, we have this observation from
Demandred about Graendal- "Except for her streith, her adornments all
came from this age, firedrops in her golden hair, a large ruby
dangling between her breasts, ornate golden bracelets on both wrists.
And something quite strange, that Demandred wondered whether anyone
else had noticed. A simple ring of gold on the little finger of her
left hand. Simple was never associated with Graendal."
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?

It is an angreal. She uses it when she is confronted by Cyndane and Moggy, who
are trying to bring her into Moridin's service (I believe that is in book 8).

3. In TSR and TFoH, Rand makes the observation that Aviendha has a
bracelet of white ivory, but has no idea who gave it to her, and she
won't tell him, and it irritates the hell out of him. Who gave it to
her, and what is it's significance? It comes up again in [WH, 12, A
Lily in Winter, pg 293], with still no explanation. Did I miss
something?

He gave her the bracelet; he keeps asking who gave her the Kandori snowflake
necklace she wears (it is from Aviendha, which was revealed early on in one of
Egwene's POVs).

4. Again, at the Forsaken Coffee Hour, Dashivan'gar says "Simple
probabilities... Next time he will be killed or taken." Haliman'gar
then snaps back with "You are going to depend on chance?... You were
responsible for watching him, Osan'gar... you and Demandred." Which
just adds more support to the Demandred in the Black Tower evidence,
but if that's so, who is he? We know his persona hasn't been seen
onscreen, but parsing out what that actually says, is it possible that
we have heard him mentioned, if not actually seen? I'd like to think
so, and to that end, I'd like to throw in a candidate- someone who has
been mentioned as being at the Black Tower, not seen onstage, and
someone who has a major role there. Who fits this bill?
Henre Haslin, Swordmaster of the Black Tower. The first we hear of
him, AFAIK, is when Rand asks where he is, and Taim tells him he was
sent away, cause the men don't need to learn the sword if they can
channel. Rand tells off Taim, and orders him to get him back, since
they may need the skill if they are ever shielded or cut off. We hear
him referenced several times after that, but never seen on screen.

Possible, but Taim seemed to honestly dislike the guy, and it is doubtful that
one of the Forsaken would allow himself to be sent away from his post by a
simple male channeler (or Dreadlord, or Minion of a FS, depending on the theory
you subscribe to). Rand would have never known he was gone unless he checked
the BT, something he is not exactly known for doing. He has popped his head in
there what? 3 times since setting Taim to teach the students?

<snip to end>

[Jean Dufresne]

Post by RiftTraveler
1. Anath is Tuon's soe'feia, which translates into Truthspeeker.
Sophia, is, I believe, the Greek word for truth. I could be wrong
about that, but I'm pretty sure it is.

No, sophia is the Greek word for wisdom. Besides, the Old Tongue is not
especially inspired from Greek.

Post by RiftTraveler
2. At the Forsaken Coffee Hour, we have this observation from
Demandred about Graendal-

[...]

Post by RiftTraveler
A simple ring of gold on the little finger of her
left hand.

[...]

Post by RiftTraveler
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason

[...]

Post by RiftTraveler
Maybe it's an angreal?

Yes. See TPoD, ch. 12.

Post by RiftTraveler
3. In TSR and TFoH, Rand makes the observation that Aviendha has a
bracelet of white ivory, but has no idea who gave it to her, and she
won't tell him, and it irritates the hell out of him. Who gave it to
her, and what is it's significance?

Rand knows who gave Aviendha the bracelet. Rand gave it to her [TSR,
ch. 50]. You're probably thinking of Aviendha's silver necklace. The
necklace is Egwene's gift [TFoH, ch.7].

Post by RiftTraveler
It comes up again in [WH, 12, A
Lily in Winter, pg 293], with still no explanation. Did I miss
something?

That's the bracelet.

Post by RiftTraveler
4. Again, at the Forsaken Coffee Hour, Dashivan'gar says "Simple
probabilities... Next time he will be killed or taken." Haliman'gar
then snaps back with "You are going to depend on chance?... You were
responsible for watching him, Osan'gar... you and Demandred." Which
just adds more support to the Demandred in the Black Tower evidence

Rand is almost never at the BT except for short visits.

[...]

Post by RiftTraveler
Who fits this bill?
Henre Haslin, Swordmaster of the Black Tower.

Haslin has a verifiable backgroung.

[John S. Novak, III]

Post by RiftTraveler
1. Anath is Tuon's soe'feia, which translates into Truthspeeker.
Sophia, is, I believe, the Greek word for truth. I could be wrong
about that, but I'm pretty sure it is.

You're wrong. It's Greek for wisdom, and that's in the FAQ.

What's not (that I saw) is the gnostic connection: Sophia, in Gnostic
tradition, was one of the lowest of the Aeons of the Pleroma, and it
was her meditations and attempts to reach the Monad (the true, but
unknowable God) which unwittingly created the Demiurge, which is the
Gnostic equivalent of evil.

Which means, if Jordan had been thinking this through to any degree,
that would have been Lanfear's fake name or title, not Semirhage's.

Post by RiftTraveler
2. At the Forsaken Coffee Hour, we have this observation from
Demandred about Graendal- "Except for her streith, her adornments all
came from this age, firedrops in her golden hair, a large ruby
dangling between her breasts, ornate golden bracelets on both wrists.
And something quite strange, that Demandred wondered whether anyone
else had noticed. A simple ring of gold on the little finger of her
left hand. Simple was never associated with Graendal."
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?

It's an angreal, and not hidden.

[PinballWizard]

Heya. I'm new to this board too..this will be my first post, but I
think I can answer the question about Graendal's ring. In
[TPoD]12:"New Alliances", pg 290 (right before she's introduced to
Cyndane by Moggy), we see this:"Graendal's hand went to the only ring
on the table that was not a signet, a plain golden band too small for
any but her little finger. It had been a pleasant surprise to find an
angreal attuned to women among Sammael's possessions". She puts the
ring on as soon as she sees Moggy's gateway begin to form.

As for the bracelet, Rand gives that to her in [TSR]50:"Traps". I
believe it is an elaborate necklace she wears and won't tell him who
it was from.

I'm pretty sure there's a passage in one of the last two books that
says that Aviendha's necklace was a gift from Egwene, but I'll be
damned if I can find it, so don't quote me on that. If someone does
find it, please give me the reference.. it's driving me up a wall! Or
you can just tell me I'm nuts. That'll work too :)

Post by RiftTraveler
1. Anath is Tuon's soe'feia, which translates into Truthspeeker.
Sophia, is, I believe, the Greek word for truth. I could be wrong
about that, but I'm pretty sure it is.
2. At the Forsaken Coffee Hour, we have this observation from
Demandred about Graendal- "Except for her streith, her adornments all
came from this age, firedrops in her golden hair, a large ruby
dangling between her breasts, ornate golden bracelets on both wrists.
And something quite strange, that Demandred wondered whether anyone
else had noticed. A simple ring of gold on the little finger of her
left hand. Simple was never associated with Graendal."
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?
3. In TSR and TFoH, Rand makes the observation that Aviendha has a
bracelet of white ivory, but has no idea who gave it to her, and she
won't tell him, and it irritates the hell out of him. Who gave it to
her, and what is it's significance? It comes up again in [WH, 12, A
Lily in Winter, pg 293], with still no explanation. Did I miss
something?
4. Again, at the Forsaken Coffee Hour, Dashivan'gar says "Simple
probabilities... Next time he will be killed or taken." Haliman'gar
then snaps back with "You are going to depend on chance?... You were
responsible for watching him, Osan'gar... you and Demandred." Which
just adds more support to the Demandred in the Black Tower evidence,
but if that's so, who is he? We know his persona hasn't been seen
onscreen, but parsing out what that actually says, is it possible that
we have heard him mentioned, if not actually seen? I'd like to think
so, and to that end, I'd like to throw in a candidate- someone who has
been mentioned as being at the Black Tower, not seen onstage, and
someone who has a major role there. Who fits this bill?
Henre Haslin, Swordmaster of the Black Tower. The first we hear of
him, AFAIK, is when Rand asks where he is, and Taim tells him he was
sent away, cause the men don't need to learn the sword if they can
channel. Rand tells off Taim, and orders him to get him back, since
they may need the skill if they are ever shielded or cut off. We hear
him referenced several times after that, but never seen on screen.
This fits in, I believe, with Demandred being at the Black Tower,
presumably in a position of Power. The only major problem with this
theory, is this: why would he just sit and teach guys how to use the
sword? Why not be more active in the channelling bit?
Perhaps because Taim, his little minion buddy, is doing that, as well
as Dashiva, who was in with Rand there until he got himself blowed up
real good. That way, Demandred can concentrate more on subverting the
Black Tower from within, while Dashiva keeps an eye on Rand wherever
he goes.
I don't know. I'm probably wrong, but it's my pet looney theory, so
let me have it.
Anyway, those are my random thoughts, and conjectures and questions.
Any help anyone else could give would be appreciated, and as I said
earlier, please dont' flame me if these have all been discussed
before.
Rift "Now my life is Rosy" Traveler

[Corey M Seward]

RiftTraveler <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
[sniptastic]

Post by RiftTraveler
4. Again, at the Forsaken Coffee Hour, Dashivan'gar says "Simple
probabilities... Next time he will be killed or taken." Haliman'gar
then snaps back with "You are going to depend on chance?... You were
responsible for watching him, Osan'gar... you and Demandred." Which
just adds more support to the Demandred in the Black Tower evidence,
but if that's so, who is he? We know his persona hasn't been seen
onscreen, but parsing out what that actually says, is it possible that
we have heard him mentioned, if not actually seen? I'd like to think
so, and to that end, I'd like to throw in a candidate- someone who has
been mentioned as being at the Black Tower, not seen onstage, and
someone who has a major role there. Who fits this bill?

I think we should be able to eliminate anyone in a position of authority
at the Black Tower, for the same reason that Taim is not Demandred: he
didn't recognize Flynn in Shadar Logoth. While some of the newer recruits
may not know who Flynn is, anyone in authority there or who's been there a
long time definitely should. And since Dem would (realistically) have to
have been at the BT from the beginning to have been effective, my personal
opinion is that he can't be anyone at the BT. It's more likely he's just
running Taim, and keeping an eye on the lot that way.

[snip rest]

[Paul W. Lints]

Subject: Re: Random Questions and FAQ stuff
Date: 6/26/2004 7:51 AM Pacific Standard Time
I think we should be able to eliminate anyone in a position of authority
at the Black Tower, for the same reason that Taim is not Demandred: he
didn't recognize Flynn in Shadar Logoth. While some of the newer recruits
may not know who Flynn is, anyone in authority there or who's been there a
long time definitely should. And since Dem would (realistically) have to
have been at the BT from the beginning to have been effective, my personal
opinion is that he can't be anyone at the BT. It's more likely he's just
running Taim, and keeping an eye on the lot that way.
[snip rest]

Following that line of thought...

How do the Asha'man know how to recognize deserters (we will pretend they don't
weave disguises, because otherwise searchers would never be able to catch any
that kept a low profile)? Do they rely on only having people who know the
person in question in the hunting parties? Or do they have someone who can
draw accurate sketches of the person in question (or at least circulate
accurate descriptions of the deserter)? If the latter is true, you should be
able to discount any known channelers in the BT as being Demandred...they would
all know Flinn's face as that of a deserter, and thus know he was an Asha'man.
One would imagine that a Forsaken would go out of his way to learn the
face/description of those whom the Dragon Reborn selected as his personal
bodyguard, so it would seem that you can ignore the BT as a possible hiding
place for Demandred (which is not to say he does not control it through Taim,
of course).

[Joe]

Subject: Random Questions and FAQ stuff
Date: 6/25/2004 3:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Stuff for possible FAQ Inclusion, and random questions of stuff I'm
not sure about

<snip>

2. At the Forsaken Coffee Hour, we have this observation from
Demandred about Graendal- "Except for her streith, her adornments all
came from this age, firedrops in her golden hair, a large ruby
dangling between her breasts, ornate golden bracelets on both wrists.
And something quite strange, that Demandred wondered whether anyone
else had noticed. A simple ring of gold on the little finger of her
left hand. Simple was never associated with Graendal."
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?

Little band of gold = Serpent Ring that Aes Sedai wear.

3. In TSR and TFoH, Rand makes the observation that Aviendha has a
bracelet of white ivory, but has no idea who gave it to her, and she
won't tell him, and it irritates the hell out of him. Who gave it to
her, and what is it's significance? It comes up again in [WH, 12, A
Lily in Winter, pg 293], with still no explanation. Did I miss
something?

Actually, Rand gave her the ivory bracelet I think.. I think the piece of
jewelry you are referring to is the necklace that AV is also wearing? In which
case. . . .

Egwene gave it to her. Think it's mentioned in FOH, if not from Av's POV,
definitely from EG's POV. She thinks on the Kandori(I think) Pattern called
snowflakes, and thought that it would be appropriate because AV would never see
snow, at least, not on her side of the Dragonwall

<snip the rest because I have nothing to say about those.>

Rift "Now my life is Rosy" Traveler

Joe.

I am just a figment of your imagination.
.
I am disappointed that you didn't do a better job.

[Davian]

Post by Joe

Subject: Random Questions and FAQ stuff
Date: 6/25/2004 3:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?

Little band of gold = Serpent Ring that Aes Sedai wear.

Nope. It's an angreal that she took from Sammael's lair after he died.

[Joe]

Subject: Re: Random Questions and FAQ stuff
Date: 6/26/2004 11:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Post by Joe

Subject: Random Questions and FAQ stuff
Date: 6/25/2004 3:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Does this ring pose any signifigance to us for any reason, or just one
of those million billion unnessecary things that RJ threw in for
verisimilitude? It sounds almost like a wedding ring, though why
Graendal would have one of those is beyond me. Maybe it's an angreal?

Little band of gold = Serpent Ring that Aes Sedai wear.

Nope. It's an angreal that she took from Sammael's lair after he died.
--
Jeff
Davian / Dearic

Yeah, I found that one after I had already posted that. . . just a slip on
that one.

~~~~~~~
Joe.
I am just a figment of your imagination.
I am disappointed that you didn't do a better job.