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Spoiler AMOL Qs
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TB
2013-03-06 06:41:28 UTC
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AMOL spoilers:

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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?

How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured? (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).

What did Artur Hawkwing say to Fortouna?

What were the full demands of Moiraine and Lanfear during their stay
in the Rhuidean doorway?

What were the full questions of those who visited the Tear doorway?

Why didn't Gawyn appear as a Hero of the Horn when it was blown (He
seems to be a hero, and he died before the Horn was blown). What
about other Rand allies who died in battle? Davram Bashere, Gareth
Bryne....
Chucky @ Work
2013-03-06 09:54:23 UTC
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Post by TB
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured? (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.

The Aiel will fight the shit out of any Seanchan who tries to collar
them, and under the new rules they won't be allowed to collar them
anyway. Not sure how many were already collared: not many, I think.
Post by TB
What did Artur Hawkwing say to Fortouna?
Hee, I can only imagine.

She probably decided he was a fake.
Post by TB
What were the full demands of Moiraine and Lanfear during their stay
in the Rhuidean doorway?
Huh?
Post by TB
What were the full questions of those who visited the Tear doorway?
Don't know.
Post by TB
Why didn't Gawyn appear as a Hero of the Horn when it was blown (He
seems to be a hero, and he died before the Horn was blown).
Not enough of a hero, or not fully worked in as a member at the moment
of blowing (Birgitte popped straight back as a result of her
exceptional circumstances, she was never exactly a normal person
reborn in the normal way). I would think he would need some time to
become part of folklore before being a genuine Hero, rather than just
a hero. He wasn't a clear re-imagining of some bygone Hero like Rogosh
or Birgitte, after all.
Post by TB
What about other Rand allies who died in battle? Davram Bashere, Gareth
Bryne....
Bryne and Siuan were poignant. Bashere and his wife were
disappointingly off-screen.




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TB
2013-03-06 16:33:39 UTC
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured?  (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.
The Aiel will fight the shit out of any Seanchan who tries to collar
them, and under the new rules they won't be allowed to collar them
anyway. Not sure how many were already collared: not many, I think.
Post by TB
What did Artur Hawkwing say to Fortouna?
Hee, I can only imagine.
She probably decided he was a fake.
Post by TB
What were the full demands of Moiraine and Lanfear during their stay
in the Rhuidean doorway?
Huh?
Post by TB
What were the full questions of those who visited the Tear doorway?
Don't know.
Post by TB
Why didn't Gawyn appear as a Hero of the Horn when it was blown (He
seems to be a hero, and he died before the Horn was blown).
Not enough of a hero, or not fully worked in as a member at the moment
of blowing (Birgitte popped straight back as a result of her
exceptional circumstances, she was never exactly a normal person
reborn in the normal way). I would think he would need some time to
become part of folklore before being a genuine Hero, rather than just
a hero. He wasn't a clear re-imagining of some bygone Hero like Rogosh
or Birgitte, after all.
Post by TB
What about other Rand allies who died in battle?  Davram Bashere, Gareth
Bryne....
Bryne and Siuan were poignant. Bashere and his wife were
disappointingly off-screen.
I mean: Why weren't Bryne and Bashere among the heros summoned by the
Horn?
David DeLaney
2013-03-06 21:48:08 UTC
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I mean: Why weren't Bryne and Bashere among the heros summoned by the
Horn?
...They didn't qualify. There weren't millions, or even thousands, of Heros
of the Horn. There were a couple dozen. It's really really surprising, given
that, that even ONE new one showed up between the two (2) times it got sounded
at the end of this Age.

Dave
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TB
2013-03-07 04:56:49 UTC
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Post by David DeLaney
Post by TB
I mean: Why weren't Bryne and Bashere among the heros summoned by the
Horn?
...They didn't qualify. There weren't millions, or even thousands, of Heros
of the Horn. There were a couple dozen. It's really really surprising, given
that, that even ONE new one showed up between the two (2) times it got sounded
at the end of this Age.
Page 891 of AMOL: Rand realizes that the Dark One was not the enemy,
and had never been the enemy. Then who or what WAS the enemy?
Chucky @ Work
2013-03-07 11:07:35 UTC
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Post by TB
Post by David DeLaney
Post by TB
I mean: Why weren't Bryne and Bashere among the heros summoned by the
Horn?
...They didn't qualify. There weren't millions, or even thousands, of Heros
of the Horn. There were a couple dozen. It's really really surprising, given
that, that even ONE new one showed up between the two (2) times it got sounded
at the end of this Age.
Page 891 of AMOL: Rand realizes that the Dark One was not the enemy,
and had never been the enemy. Then who or what WAS the enemy?
People who let the Dark One affect their deeds.




- ***@w
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CHOW:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
Give a hoot, read my book:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/arsebook-my-rear-in-status-2011/
Chucky @ Work
2013-03-07 11:06:21 UTC
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Why didn't Gawyn appear as a Hero of the Horn when it was blown (He
seems to be a hero, and he died before the Horn was blown).
Not enough of a hero, or not fully worked in as a member at the moment
of blowing (Birgitte popped straight back as a result of her
exceptional circumstances, she was never exactly a normal person
reborn in the normal way). I would think he would need some time to
become part of folklore before being a genuine Hero, rather than just
a hero. He wasn't a clear re-imagining of some bygone Hero like Rogosh
or Birgitte, after all.
Post by TB
What about other Rand allies who died in battle?  Davram Bashere, Gareth
Bryne....
Bryne and Siuan were poignant. Bashere and his wife were
disappointingly off-screen.
I mean: Why weren't Bryne and Bashere among the heros summoned by the
Horn?
Oh.

Same reason Gawyn wasn't, I guess.

I don't think all the people whose memories Mat had inherited were
Heroes of the Horn either. Although in a new turning, I imagine Mat
would inherit the tactical recollections of the great captains of the
Third Age to fill out his memory-graft.




- ***@w
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13 of 12, the CMM Collective
CHOW:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
Give a hoot, read my book:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/arsebook-my-rear-in-status-2011/
TB
2013-03-06 23:14:57 UTC
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured?  (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.
Are the Seanchan allowed to collar on the portion of the mainland they
control new female channelers who manifest?
Chucky @ Work
2013-03-07 11:09:48 UTC
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured?  (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.
Are the Seanchan allowed to collar on the portion of the mainland they
control new female channelers who manifest?
I think that was implied, although the "any who want to be freed" rule
would still apply. Remember, they made an agreement that Aes Sedai
would be allowed to talk to marath'damane in Seanchan lands and try to
talk them out of wanting to be damane, and Seanchan would be allowed
to talk to marath'damane in non-Seanchan lands and try to talk them
*into* wanting to be damane.

That would be an interesting day. Actually reads like a rather
heavy-handed allegory for something, if you know what I mean.




- ***@w
--
13 of 12, the CMM Collective
CHOW:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
Give a hoot, read my book:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/arsebook-my-rear-in-status-2011/
TB
2013-03-07 15:38:18 UTC
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured?  (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.
Are the Seanchan allowed to collar on the portion of the mainland they
control new female channelers who manifest?
I think that was implied, although the "any who want to be freed" rule
would still apply. Remember, they made an agreement that Aes Sedai
would be allowed to talk to marath'damane in Seanchan lands and try to
talk them out of wanting to be damane, and Seanchan would be allowed
to talk to marath'damane in non-Seanchan lands and try to talk them
*into* wanting to be damane.
That would be an interesting day. Actually reads like a rather
heavy-handed allegory for something, if you know what I mean.
Allegory for military recruiters?
Chucky @ Work
2013-03-08 07:40:58 UTC
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured?  (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.
Are the Seanchan allowed to collar on the portion of the mainland they
control new female channelers who manifest?
I think that was implied, although the "any who want to be freed" rule
would still apply. Remember, they made an agreement that Aes Sedai
would be allowed to talk to marath'damane in Seanchan lands and try to
talk them out of wanting to be damane, and Seanchan would be allowed
to talk to marath'damane in non-Seanchan lands and try to talk them
*into* wanting to be damane.
That would be an interesting day. Actually reads like a rather
heavy-handed allegory for something, if you know what I mean.
Allegory for military recruiters?
Military recruitment, homosexuality, slavery, you name it.



- ***@w
--
13 of 12, the CMM Collective
CHOW:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
Give a hoot, read my book:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/arsebook-my-rear-in-status-2011/
Timothy Bruening
2022-04-24 07:28:06 UTC
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured? (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.
Are the Seanchan allowed to collar on the portion of the mainland they
control new female channelers who manifest?
I think that was implied, although the "any who want to be freed" rule
would still apply. Remember, they made an agreement that Aes Sedai
would be allowed to talk to marath'damane in Seanchan lands and try to
talk them out of wanting to be damane, and Seanchan would be allowed
to talk to marath'damane in non-Seanchan lands and try to talk them
*into* wanting to be damane.
That would be an interesting day. Actually reads like a rather
heavy-handed allegory for something, if you know what I mean.
Allegory for military recruiters?
Military recruitment, homosexuality, slavery, you name it.
A collar that turns people gay?
Timothy Bruening
2023-08-08 22:25:45 UTC
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Lots of Tinkers settled in Seanchan controlled lands late in the series, because the Seanchan were the first rulers in over 3,000 years to not persecute them. However, if a Tinker girl starts to channel, how will the Tinkers get her out of Seanchan territory and to the White Tower?
Timothy Bruening
2022-04-24 10:11:44 UTC
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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?
I'm imagining they either died like a set of linked Trollocs, or fell
apart in shambles and were exterminated.
Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured? (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).
Mainland marath'damane, sure, they'll let them go if they ask to be
freed. That was a nasty proviso, though, because more than a couple of
weeks in the collar and most of them wouldn't *ask* anymore.
The Aiel will fight the shit out of any Seanchan who tries to collar
them, and under the new rules they won't be allowed to collar them
anyway. Not sure how many were already collared: not many, I think.
Post by TB
What did Artur Hawkwing say to Fortouna?
Hee, I can only imagine.
She probably decided he was a fake.
Post by TB
What were the full demands of Moiraine and Lanfear during their stay
in the Rhuidean doorway?
Huh?
What did they ask the Aelfinn and Eelfinn to give them?
Timothy Bruening
2023-08-08 22:20:30 UTC
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Why didn't Gawyn appear as a Hero of the Horn when it was blown (He
seems to be a hero, and he died before the Horn was blown).
Not enough of a hero, or not fully worked in as a member at the moment
of blowing (Birgitte popped straight back as a result of her
exceptional circumstances, she was never exactly a normal person
reborn in the normal way). I would think he would need some time to
become part of folklore before being a genuine Hero, rather than just
a hero. He wasn't a clear re-imagining of some bygone Hero like Rogosh
or Birgitte, after all.
Post by TB
What about other Rand allies who died in battle? Davram Bashere, Gareth
Bryne....
Bryne and Siuan were poignant. Bashere and his wife were
disappointingly off-screen.
But why didn't they appear when the Horn of Valere was blown?
Timothy Bruening
2022-04-24 10:11:30 UTC
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How did Rand enter Moridin's body?

How did he light his pipe at the end?

What policies will the new Amyrlin Cadsuane adopt? Will she continue Egwene's policy of signing up any female channeler regardless of age?
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