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Brandon Sanderson ruined The Wheel of Time.
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Ronald Myckham
2019-07-04 08:09:41 UTC
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Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of his
terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.
Chucky@Work
2019-07-04 09:54:28 UTC
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Post by Ronald Myckham
Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of his
terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.
Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of loose ends to tie up.

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Ronald Myckham
2019-07-04 19:21:41 UTC
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Post by Ronald Myckham
Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of his
terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.
Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he
did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of
loose ends to tie up.
No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill as
an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to be
funny or is that really your opinion?
Chucky@Work
2019-08-04 19:06:49 UTC
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torstai 4. heinäkuuta 2019 22.21.43 UTC+3 Ronald Myckham kirjoitti:

Sorry, missed this reply. Don't know if you're still around.
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Post by Ronald Myckham
Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of
his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.
Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he
did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of
loose ends to tie up.
No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill as
an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to be
funny or is that really your opinion?
I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did a good job with finishing off the story. I'm not an astroturfbot, and I appreciate your praise of my parody work.


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Ronald Myckham
2019-08-05 15:22:36 UTC
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Sorry, missed this reply. Don't know if you're still around.
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Post by Ronald Myckham
Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release
of his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going
on.
Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think
he did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a
lot of loose ends to tie up.
No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill as
an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to be
funny or is that really your opinion?
I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did
a good job with finishing off the story.
We just disagree, and I'm paranoid. That's all.
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I'm not an astroturfbot
I do appreciate this clarification, though I knew who you were before
posting that.
Chucky@Work
2019-08-06 09:59:25 UTC
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did
a good job with finishing off the story.
We just disagree, and I'm paranoid. That's all.
Fair enough.
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I'm not an astroturfbot
I do appreciate this clarification, though I knew who you were before
posting that.
Cool. You never really clarified why you thought this - I mean your initial opinion on Sanderson. I concede it was hardly an efficient use of your time to go into reasons for an audience of zero, but how about an audience of one?

And do you just dislike his Wheel of Time books, or his other stuff in general? If the former, was there anything specific you would have done differently? If the latter, I admit that I'm halfway through Sanderson's latest Stormlight book and have stopped to read, like, five other books in the meantime and may not go back to it at all. Simply because, sadly, it didn't grip me.

Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.


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Chucky@Work
2019-08-06 10:00:05 UTC
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Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.
Or even just discussion.

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Scott Lurndal
2019-08-06 13:47:14 UTC
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Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.
Or even just discussion.
I, personally, enjoyed the Sanderson's books for the most part. I do
think he didn't get Matrim's quite right however, and I was unhappy
as to Egwene's fate - but it's not clear that was Sanderson or Jim's
notes.
Chucky@Work
2019-08-07 05:36:33 UTC
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Post by Scott Lurndal
I, personally, enjoyed the Sanderson's books for the most part. I do
think he didn't get Matrim's quite right however,
I may have to re-read the whole set and see how abrupt the shift was. I confess I never really fell in love with Mat's character the way so many readers seemed to, so I wasn't bothered by any change that ended up happening. I enjoyed his storyline and ta'veren attributes, and I don't know how those changed.
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and I was unhappy as to Egwene's fate - but it's not clear that was
Sanderson or Jim's notes.
Yeah, I tend to think most of those really big-deal sort of plot points were laid out in the notes Sanderson was following, but who really knows? Egwene deserved to take her place as a world leader, and if anyone was going to sacrifice herself for the Emond's Fielders / the world / the entire universe, it probably should have been Nynaeve.

But I guess it is what it is.



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jjvors
2022-01-20 23:34:11 UTC
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Post by ***@Work
I, personally, enjoyed the Sanderson's books for the most part. I do
think he didn't get Matrim's quite right however,
I may have to re-read the whole set and see how abrupt the shift was. I confess I never really fell in love with Mat's character the way so many readers seemed to, so I wasn't bothered by any change that ended up happening. I enjoyed his storyline and ta'veren attributes, and I don't know how those changed.
and I was unhappy as to Egwene's fate - but it's not clear that was
Sanderson or Jim's notes.
Mat's personality changed in his subplot. He tried too hard to be funny. The old Mat was ironically funny without trying.

But I think he'd be a hard character to imitate, so I don't blame Sanderson for that.

The sacrifice of Egwene made logical sense to me. Everything she did was whole-hearted: Wisdom, Aes-Sedai, Amryllian. She did exactly what the Amryllian should do at the end of the world, fighting Forsaken. It also was perfectly foreshadowed in the ancient queen who sacrificed herself to stop a Trolloc attack.
Ronald Myckham
2019-08-07 22:10:56 UTC
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson
did a good job with finishing off the story.
We just disagree, and I'm paranoid. That's all.
Fair enough.
Post by Ronald Myckham
Post by ***@Work
I'm not an astroturfbot
I do appreciate this clarification, though I knew who you were before
posting that.
Cool. You never really clarified why you thought this - I mean your
initial opinion on Sanderson. I concede it was hardly an efficient use
of your time to go into reasons for an audience of zero, but how about
an audience of one?
And do you just dislike his Wheel of Time books, or his other stuff in
general? If the former, was there anything specific you would have
done differently? If the latter, I admit that I'm halfway through
Sanderson's latest Stormlight book and have stopped to read, like,
five other books in the meantime and may not go back to it at all.
Simply because, sadly, it didn't grip me.
Anyway, ddiscussion welcome.
Whatever happened to Janica?
Chucky@Work
2019-08-08 09:09:34 UTC
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Post by Ronald Myckham
Whatever happened to Janica?
Since this morning? Not much, I imagine she's just hanging at home, preparing for our trip to Dublin for Worldcon next week. She's on a long vacation since she works at a school.

I'm posting cheekily from work, we don't get much chance to hit the newsgroups from home together these days.


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Cassie
2019-08-27 16:26:05 UTC
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Sorry, missed this reply. Don't know if you're still around.
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Post by Ronald Myckham
Not sure why so many defenders appeared online during the release of
his terrible books. It almost seems like astroturfing was going on.
Finishing the series off was always going to be a hard job. I think he
did fine. There was nothing too unsatisfying there and he had a lot of
loose ends to tie up.
No offense intended by this question, I'm only speaking to your skill as
an excellent parodist, but are you restating the forced narrative to be
funny or is that really your opinion?
I'm not sure I understand the question. I honestly think Sanderson did a good job with finishing off the story. I'm not an astroturfbot, and I appreciate your praise of my parody work.
I agree with you that he did a good job. It is hard to finish others man
work.

Cassie
Timothy Bruening
2019-12-17 06:17:20 UTC
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I liked the town where the people who die during their nightly bouts of violence come back to life each morning, safe in their beds!
Timothy Bruening
2022-01-20 09:19:25 UTC
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Post by Timothy Bruening
I liked the town where the people who die during their nightly bouts of violence come back to life each morning, safe in their beds!
Did the Hinderstappers come back to life the day after Rand reforged the Seal on the DO's prison?
jjvors
2022-01-20 23:35:46 UTC
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I liked the town where the people who die during their nightly bouts of violence come back to life each morning, safe in their beds!
Did the Hinderstappers come back to life the day after Rand reforged the Seal on the DO's prison?
Great question. I assume not, since I assume that was due to the Dark One removing the boundaries between life and death.
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