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Far Madding
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Aslade
2003-07-31 01:36:02 UTC
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When Cadsuane and her party enter Far Madding in WH, it is explained
to Shalon that it's a stedding within a stedding, where first the men
cannot reach the source, and then the women cannot. But, when they are
viewing the ter'angreal, it shows the direction of men channeling. How
can they?

Obviously, I misunderstood something or missed something as I read.



Aslade, from her mountain farmhouse
Robert Mee
2003-07-31 02:55:08 UTC
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Post by Aslade
When Cadsuane and her party enter Far Madding in WH, it is explained
to Shalon that it's a stedding within a stedding, where first the men
cannot reach the source, and then the women cannot. But, when they are
viewing the ter'angreal, it shows the direction of men channeling. How
can they?
Obviously, I misunderstood something or missed something as I read.
Why does everyone have such a problem with this?
The men channeling are *outside Far Madding*.
--
The Humblest Man on the Net
If I remember correctly, John.... the men are channeling within the 3 mile
circle.... yes, they're outside of town physically, but they're close
enough
to be picked up by the sensors because the ones attuned to Saidin work
that
far.
Rob
My mistake (rereading through WH on the Encyclopaedia WOT).... for men the
limit is 1 mile. For women it's just outside the city (I take that to mean
about a hundred yards or so from the city walls).
Davian
2003-07-31 04:46:31 UTC
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Post by Aslade
When Cadsuane and her party enter Far Madding in WH, it is explained
to Shalon that it's a stedding within a stedding, where first the men
cannot reach the source, and then the women cannot. But, when they are
viewing the ter'angreal, it shows the direction of men channeling. How
can they?
Obviously, I misunderstood something or missed something as I read.
It's not explicitly stated, but it seems obvious to me that the ranges at
which the ter'angreals (creating a stedding like effect, not an actual
stedding) prevent channelling and detect channeling are different.

(Pulling numbers from air to illustrate) Once you get within 100 miles of
Far Madding, the Guardian ter'angreal can sense you channeling and point to
your location. Once you get within 1 mile of Far Madding, the Guardian
ter'angreal acts as a stedding and prevents you from channeling.
--
Jeff

Davian / Dearic
Debbi Chambers
2003-07-31 12:57:50 UTC
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Post by Davian
Post by Aslade
When Cadsuane and her party enter Far Madding in WH, it is explained
to Shalon that it's a stedding within a stedding, where first the men
cannot reach the source, and then the women cannot. But, when they are
viewing the ter'angreal, it shows the direction of men channeling. How
can they?
Obviously, I misunderstood something or missed something as I read.
It's not explicitly stated, but it seems obvious to me that the ranges at
which the ter'angreals (creating a stedding like effect, not an actual
stedding) prevent channelling and detect channeling are different.
(Pulling numbers from air to illustrate) Once you get within 100 miles of
Far Madding, the Guardian ter'angreal can sense you channeling and point to
your location. Once you get within 1 mile of Far Madding, the Guardian
ter'angreal acts as a stedding and prevents you from channeling.
That is my understanding of it as well.


--
Debbi

"The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and
expecting different results" - Albert Einstein
John S. Novak, III
2003-07-31 13:36:29 UTC
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Post by Davian
It's not explicitly stated, but it seems obvious to me that the ranges at
which the ter'angreals (creating a stedding like effect, not an actual
stedding) prevent channelling and detect channeling are different.
Becuase it would be pretty dopey to not only have a ter'angreal that
detects channeling inside a volume where channeling can't happen, but
to have the thing staffed carefully at all time by people whose
attention is rivetted to the thing, waiting for it to twitch.
--
John S. Novak, III ***@cegt201.bradley.edu
The Humblest Man on the Net
Tim Bruening
2010-04-05 08:38:11 UTC
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Post by Davian
Post by Aslade
When Cadsuane and her party enter Far Madding in WH, it is explained
to Shalon that it's a stedding within a stedding, where first the men
cannot reach the source, and then the women cannot. But, when they are
viewing the ter'angreal, it shows the direction of men channeling. How
can they?
Obviously, I misunderstood something or missed something as I read.
It's not explicitly stated, but it seems obvious to me that the ranges at
which the ter'angreals (creating a stedding like effect, not an actual
stedding) prevent channelling and detect channeling are different.
(Pulling numbers from air to illustrate) Once you get within 100 miles of
Far Madding, the Guardian ter'angreal can sense you channeling and point to
your location. Once you get within 1 mile of Far Madding, the Guardian
ter'angreal acts as a stedding and prevents you from channeling.
The Guardian must have lit up like a Christmas tree when Rand and
Nynaeve were cleansing saidin!

Martha
2003-07-31 15:46:13 UTC
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Why does everyone have such a problem with this?
The men channeling are *outside Far Madding*.
My apologies, John. Just spent a half hour or so on google reading the
Far Madding posts and went back and read the passages in WH. I still
find the text not clear enough, but the posts do clarify it, and so
does the response of Davian.

My only excuse, I was stretched out reading this, got up and asked the
question. From now on, I read google first.

Perhaps its just a sign of age, but I find it more and more difficult
switching from scene to scene to scene and keeping track of the
different happenings. I do miss things.


Aslade, from her mountain farmhouse
Tim Bruening
2010-04-05 08:36:40 UTC
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Post by Aslade
When Cadsuane and her party enter Far Madding in WH, it is explained
to Shalon that it's a stedding within a stedding, where first the men
cannot reach the source, and then the women cannot. But, when they are
viewing the ter'angreal, it shows the direction of men channeling. How
can they?
Obviously, I misunderstood something or missed something as I read.
Also, when Nynaeve channels using her well, and the Asha'man pretends that
he's the one channeling, shouldn't the ter'angreal show that it was a
woman channeling?
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