Discussion:
Saving Gentled Men
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Tim Bruening
2004-01-25 13:06:59 UTC
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Men who are gentled stop wanting to live, as they are cut off from the
bliss of channeling. Would bonding them as Warders keep them alive
longer?
Tino Didriksen
2004-01-25 13:49:24 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Men who are gentled stop wanting to live, as they are cut off from the
bliss of channeling. Would bonding them as Warders keep them alive
longer?
Possibly, but I doubt it would be fun being bonded to a man who really has
no wish to live.
Remember the bond is two-way, so the Aes Sedai would feel his hopelessness,
and might even be caught in it herself.

Much easier to just Heal him so he can channel, and thus want to live.

-- Tino Didriksen
-- ProjectJJ.com
Tim Bruening
2004-01-25 14:57:18 UTC
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Post by Tino Didriksen
Post by Tim Bruening
Men who are gentled stop wanting to live, as they are cut off from the
bliss of channeling. Would bonding them as Warders keep them alive
longer?
Possibly, but I doubt it would be fun being bonded to a man who really has
no wish to live.
Remember the bond is two-way, so the Aes Sedai would feel his hopelessness,
and might even be caught in it herself.
Much easier to just Heal him so he can channel, and thus want to live.
Myrelle has Bonded three Warders who lost their AS and were thus suicidal. She
got two of them to want to live again. Perhaps she could do the same for
gentled men.

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The 3rd orphaned Warder Myrelle Bonded is the famous Warder and Malkier King
Lan, formally the Warder of Moiraine. Egwene sent Lan to Ebou Dar to protect
Nynaeve, figuring that that duty would make him want to live.
Adam Canning
2004-01-26 18:12:49 UTC
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Post by Tino Didriksen
Post by Tim Bruening
Men who are gentled stop wanting to live, as they are cut off from the
bliss of channeling. Would bonding them as Warders keep them alive
longer?
Possibly, but I doubt it would be fun being bonded to a man who really has
no wish to live.
Remember the bond is two-way, so the Aes Sedai would feel his hopelessness,
and might even be caught in it herself.
Note a Warder who looses his Aes Sedai also looses the will to live. THe
Greens appear to have a technique that can solve that in some cases.

In otherwords becoming a Warder and the other bits [Lots of Exercise etc]
might give them a new reason to live.

It is one of the possible reasons for the creation of the Warder Bond.
--
Adam

"This is not a Lifesaving Device"
Warning found on a 4-foot inflatable Dalek.
Mitchell Swan
2004-01-26 18:52:34 UTC
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Post by Adam Canning
Post by Tino Didriksen
Post by Tim Bruening
Men who are gentled stop wanting to live, as they are cut off from the
bliss of channeling. Would bonding them as Warders keep them alive
longer?
Possibly, but I doubt it would be fun being bonded to a man who really has
no wish to live.
Remember the bond is two-way, so the Aes Sedai would feel his hopelessness,
and might even be caught in it herself.
Note a Warder who looses his Aes Sedai also looses the will to live. THe
Greens appear to have a technique that can solve that in some cases.
In otherwords becoming a Warder and the other bits [Lots of Exercise etc]
might give them a new reason to live.
It is one of the possible reasons for the creation of the Warder Bond.
The creation of the Warder bond was done to save the lives of Warders
who've lost their bond-holders?


Neat.






Hint: That was sarcasm.
--
Mitch
"Actually, after long thought, I'm not sure that
America _is_ the stupidest country on Earth -
it's just that they promote their stupidity so effectively."
Mil Millington
Adam Canning
2004-01-26 19:20:49 UTC
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In article <***@raytheon.com>, ***@raytheon.com
says...
Post by Mitchell Swan
Post by Adam Canning
Post by Tino Didriksen
Post by Tim Bruening
Men who are gentled stop wanting to live, as they are cut off from the
bliss of channeling. Would bonding them as Warders keep them alive
longer?
Possibly, but I doubt it would be fun being bonded to a man who really has
no wish to live.
Remember the bond is two-way, so the Aes Sedai would feel his hopelessness,
and might even be caught in it herself.
Note a Warder who looses his Aes Sedai also looses the will to live. THe
Greens appear to have a technique that can solve that in some cases.
In otherwords becoming a Warder and the other bits [Lots of Exercise etc]
might give them a new reason to live.
It is one of the possible reasons for the creation of the Warder Bond.
The creation of the Warder bond was done to save the lives of Warders
who've lost their bond-holders?
Neat.
Hint: That was sarcasm.
Hint: The warder bond seems to have been invented in the period just
after the Breaking.

While the nascent Tower was into major what to do about Men who can
channel experiments.
--
Adam

"This is not a Lifesaving Device"
Warning found on a 4-foot inflatable Dalek.
Mitchell Swan
2004-01-26 19:55:17 UTC
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Post by Adam Canning
says...
Post by Mitchell Swan
Post by Adam Canning
Note a Warder who looses his Aes Sedai also looses the will to live. THe
Greens appear to have a technique that can solve that in some cases.
In otherwords becoming a Warder and the other bits [Lots of Exercise etc]
might give them a new reason to live.
It is one of the possible reasons for the creation of the Warder Bond.
The creation of the Warder bond was done to save the lives of Warders
who've lost their bond-holders?
Neat.
Hint: That was sarcasm.
Hint: The warder bond seems to have been invented in the period just
after the Breaking.
While the nascent Tower was into major what to do about Men who can
channel experiments.
You really did a piss poor job of changing the subject then.
--
Mitch
"Actually, after long thought, I'm not sure that
America _is_ the stupidest country on Earth -
it's just that they promote their stupidity so effectively."
Mil Millington
Richard Boye'
2004-01-27 01:35:45 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Swan
Post by Adam Canning
says...
Post by Mitchell Swan
Post by Adam Canning
Note a Warder who looses his Aes Sedai also looses the will to live. THe
Greens appear to have a technique that can solve that in some cases.
In otherwords becoming a Warder and the other bits [Lots of Exercise etc]
might give them a new reason to live.
It is one of the possible reasons for the creation of the Warder Bond.
The creation of the Warder bond was done to save the lives of Warders
who've lost their bond-holders?
Neat.
Hint: That was sarcasm.
Hint: The warder bond seems to have been invented in the period just
after the Breaking.
While the nascent Tower was into major what to do about Men who can
channel experiments.
You really did a piss poor job of changing the subject then.
Speaking which, how about that urine?
--
Richard M. Boye' * ***@webspan.net
Typing into the Void:
http://www.webspan.net/~waldo/books/blogger.html
"Some men lead lives of quiet desperation.
My desperation makes a pathetic whining sound."
Leif Cleveland
2004-01-27 10:08:53 UTC
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Post by Richard Boye'
Speaking which, how about that urine?
- Nutritious.
Tim Bruening
2010-03-29 06:36:33 UTC
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Post by Tino Didriksen
Post by Tim Bruening
Men who are gentled stop wanting to live, as they are cut off from the
bliss of channeling. Would bonding them as Warders keep them alive
longer?
Possibly, but I doubt it would be fun being bonded to a man who really has
no wish to live.
Remember the bond is two-way, so the Aes Sedai would feel his hopelessness,
and might even be caught in it herself.
Much easier to just Heal him so he can channel, and thus want to live.
But then he'd go insane!

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