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SPOILER: Verin
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James Hammons
2009-10-31 21:23:51 UTC
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Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.

James Hammons
steveo
2009-11-03 06:01:31 UTC
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Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
That played out far better than I could have expected. How typical of
Verin, and how awesome - Purple Ajah indeed.

I wonder if she was in the DFS in tGH...

steveo
vecki
2009-11-03 22:11:58 UTC
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Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
That played out far better than I could have expected. How typical of
Verin, and how awesome - Purple Ajah indeed.
I wonder if she was in the DFS in tGH...
Heh, that was my instinct last night too... had to go have a look at
my copy. No clues there though, both the 'Tar Valon witches' were
completely covered but for their fingers.

Sneaky Verin is Sneaky. And rocks my socks. "By the way, that dress
you are wearing is green." So awesome.

~*~
vecki
James Hammons
2009-11-04 22:56:24 UTC
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Post by vecki
Holy mother of a goat.  Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed.  Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails.  Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
That played out far better than I could have expected.  How typical of
Verin, and how awesome - Purple Ajah indeed.
I wonder if she was in the DFS in tGH...
Heh, that was my instinct last night too... had to go have a look at
my copy.  No clues there though, both the 'Tar Valon witches' were
completely covered but for their fingers.
Sneaky Verin is Sneaky.  And rocks my socks.  "By the way, that dress
you are wearing is green."  So awesome.
~*~
vecki
Would have been a nice throw to the fans here on rasfw-rj if she had
said it was purple.

James Hammons
Tim Bruening
2010-03-27 22:00:54 UTC
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Post by vecki
Post by steveo
Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
That played out far better than I could have expected. How typical of
Verin, and how awesome - Purple Ajah indeed.
I wonder if she was in the DFS in tGH...
Heh, that was my instinct last night too... had to go have a look at
my copy. No clues there though, both the 'Tar Valon witches' were
completely covered but for their fingers.
Sneaky Verin is Sneaky. And rocks my socks. "By the way, that dress
you are wearing is green." So awesome.
I look forward to reading her book when its published by Brandon Sanderson.
Tim Bruening
2010-04-26 07:59:06 UTC
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Post by vecki
Post by steveo
Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
That played out far better than I could have expected. How typical of
Verin, and how awesome - Purple Ajah indeed.
I wonder if she was in the DFS in tGH...
Heh, that was my instinct last night too... had to go have a look at
my copy. No clues there though, both the 'Tar Valon witches' were
completely covered but for their fingers.
Sneaky Verin is Sneaky. And rocks my socks. "By the way, that dress
you are wearing is green." So awesome.
After Verin finished telling Egwene about her involvement with the BA and
showing her her BA books, but before she died of the poison, what would have
happened if someone has Healed Verin of the poison?

Brinner
2009-11-14 15:42:11 UTC
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Holy mother of a goat.  Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed.  Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails.  Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
Am I the only one who wasn't that surprised? We had evidence already
that she lied. I'll be honest and say that I didn't see it coming, but
when I did read it I had an "aaaaaaaaahhhhh, that makes sense" moment.
An excellent conclusion to that thread I think.

Brinner
Luc Habert
2009-11-14 16:33:04 UTC
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We had evidence already that she lied.
Sure, but we saw her helping Rand and the wondergirls against DFs so much...
I don't understand how she could do that while obeying to the DO's orders.
For instance, protecting Rand while he cleansed Saidin while all the DFs
seemingly had orders to kill Rand. Also, if the DO talked to her, he was in
her mind and should have discovered her true feelings. The only explanation
I see is that his plans are very subtle, and Verin had special orders, and
was chosen for this job because of her feelings. Seeing as Rand almost fell
to the dark side later on, these hypothetical plans of the DO's might have
been pretty clever.
Brinner
2009-11-16 00:40:36 UTC
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Post by Luc Habert
We had evidence already that she lied.
Sure, but we saw her helping Rand and the wondergirls against DFs so much...
I don't understand how she could do that while obeying to the DO's orders.
For instance, protecting Rand while he cleansed Saidin while all the DFs
seemingly had orders to kill Rand.  Also, if the DO talked to her, he was in
her mind and should have discovered her true feelings.  The only explanation
I see is that his plans are very subtle, and Verin had special orders, and
was chosen for this job because of her feelings.  Seeing as Rand almost fell
to the dark side later on, these hypothetical plans of the DO's might have
been pretty clever.
I think you're giving the DO too much credit.I don't think he see's
directly into the minds of all darkfriends, I'm pretty sure the only
ones he speaks to directly are the Foresaken.

Brinner
Luc Habert
2009-11-16 14:16:48 UTC
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I don't think he see's directly into the minds of all darkfriends
I may be jumping to conclusions, but Verin seems to know his ways pretty
well. I wonder how she could learn them simply by receiving orders from the
Forsaken or other BA.
Brinner
2009-11-19 03:55:25 UTC
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Post by Luc Habert
I don't think he see's directly into the minds of all darkfriends
I may be jumping to conclusions, but Verin seems to know his ways pretty
well. I wonder how she could learn them simply by receiving orders from the
Forsaken or other BA.
By studying how his minions work from the inside?

Brinner
Tim Bruening
2010-03-16 01:16:58 UTC
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Post by Brinner
Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
Am I the only one who wasn't that surprised? We had evidence already
that she lied. I'll be honest and say that I didn't see it coming, but
when I did read it I had an "aaaaaaaaahhhhh, that makes sense" moment.
An excellent conclusion to that thread I think.
Aside from the lying, Verin never acted like a BA!
Tim Bruening
2010-03-18 23:05:53 UTC
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Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
How in the name of the Light did Verin persuade Laras to brew here
poisoned tea?
Tim Bruening
2010-03-20 21:01:06 UTC
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Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
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How did Verin get Laras to brew her poisoned tea?
jewahe
2010-03-21 00:11:16 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
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How did Verin get Laras to brew her poisoned tea?
Laras is Mesaana?
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JWH
Arno
2010-03-21 04:23:01 UTC
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Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
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How did Verin get Laras to brew her poisoned tea?
They are old friends?
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TB
2010-03-21 18:53:41 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
James Hammons
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How did Verin get Laras to brew her poisoned tea?
They are old friends?
But friends don't let friends drink poisoned tea, let alone drive
afterwards!:)
Tim Bruening
2010-03-27 21:58:51 UTC
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Post by James Hammons
Holy mother of a goat. Seems like the Purple Ajah theories were
actually closer to the truth than anyone could have guessed. Now to
find out what the letter she gave to Mat entails. Verin was always
one of my favorite characters, but once I got the full understanding
of what she was doing, and what she had to sacrifice to achieve it
left me a little shivery.
Verin's oath to the Great Lord: I swear not to betray the Great Lord, to
keep my secrets until the hour of my death.

I was expecting to see 3 BA Oaths, in line with the Three AS Oaths.
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