ROFLMAO! Land of madmen!

[Galad Damodred]

As a Kiwi I found this quite hilarious. Trying to research the
different cultures present in Randland I found this gem in the FAQ:

Land of Madmen: Australia?

http://linuxmafia.com/jordan/3_sources/3.14_countries.html

What I find almost as funny is the Aiel are described as:

Aiel: Cheyenne, Apache, Zulu, Bedouin, Japanese, Berbers

Yet they're all white in Randland! :-D

[Chris McCrohan]

Post by Galad Damodred
As a Kiwi I found this quite hilarious. Trying to research the
Land of Madmen: Australia?
http://linuxmafia.com/jordan/3_sources/3.14_countries.html
Aiel: Cheyenne, Apache, Zulu, Bedouin, Japanese, Berbers
Yet they're all white in Randland! :-D

Um, the Aiel are described as hvaing dark skin.

[Galad Damodred]

Post by Chris McCrohan
Um, the Aiel are described as hvaing dark skin.

ROFLMAO!

Aviendha
She is tall and lovely with blue-green eyes. Her reddish hair is short
with a tail in the back. (TDR,Ch38) Her hair is now just short of her
shoulders. (TFoH,Ch4) She is about 5'8" or 5'9".

Gaul
He is a head taller than Perrin is. (TDR,Ch34) He is handsome in a
rugged way with green eyes and long eyelashes. He is a little older
than Nynaeve. (TSR,Ch7) He is tall, with reddish hair and green eyes.
(TSR,Ch16) He is taller than Rand and has green eyes. (ACoS,Ch3)

Sevanna
She has golden hair. She is pretty and well short of her middle years
with a greedy mouth and pale green eyes. (TSR,Ch57) She has green
eyes, wears lots of jewelry. (ACoS,Prologue) She emerald eyes and
golden hair. (ACoS,Ch40)

Granted these descriptions don't specifically mention skin colour but
I don't know of too many "dark skinned" people with blonde hair and
green eyes. ;-)

Go to this site and check out physical descriptions and artist
impressions of Aiel in Randland. :-D

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org:8008/characters/s/index.html

[Chucky & Janica]

Once upon a time - for example, Thu, 1 May 2008 14:13:37 -0700 (PDT) -
there was this guy, or something, called Galad Damodred

Post by Galad Damodred
Granted these descriptions don't specifically mention skin colour but
I don't know of too many "dark skinned" people with blonde hair and
green eyes. ;-)

Not on Earth, no. Be cool if they were, though.

But you're right, I seem to recall the Aiel being white, for the most
part. Sea Folk and various Seanchan were dark-skinned, though.



C&J

[vecki]

Post by Chris McCrohan

Post by Galad Damodred
As a Kiwi I found this quite hilarious. Trying to research the
Land of Madmen: Australia?
http://linuxmafia.com/jordan/3_sources/3.14_countries.html
Aiel: Cheyenne, Apache, Zulu, Bedouin, Japanese, Berbers
Yet they're all white in Randland! :-D

Um, the Aiel are described as hvaing dark skin.

Um, Tanned, or 'sun-darkened' =/= dark skin.

Perchance you are thinking of Sea Folk?

~*~
vecki

[Chris McCrohan]

Post by Galad Damodred
Granted these descriptions don't specifically mention skin colour but
I don't know of too many "dark skinned" people with blonde hair and
green eyes. ;-)

It's fantasy. This kind of thing can happen.

Post by Galad Damodred
Go to this site and check out physical descriptions and artist

impressions of Aiel in Randland. :-D

The descriptions given on E-WoT don't mention skin colour, and
artists' impressions aren't remotely canon.

Post by Galad Damodred

Post by Chris McCrohan

Post by Galad Damodred
As a Kiwi I found this quite hilarious. Trying to research the
Land of Madmen: Australia?
http://linuxmafia.com/jordan/3_sources/3.14_countries.html
Aiel: Cheyenne, Apache, Zulu, Bedouin, Japanese, Berbers
Yet they're all white in Randland! :-D

Um, the Aiel are described as hvaing dark skin.

Um, Tanned, or 'sun-darkened' =/= dark skin.
Perchance you are thinking of Sea Folk?
~*~
vecki

No, the Sea Folk are black.

I always pictured the Aiel as having Arab complexions, which while not
exactly black, are definitely dark.

[Galad Damodred]

Post by Chris McCrohan
I always pictured the Aiel as having Arab complexions, which while not
exactly black, are definitely dark.

Damn these Aiel seem to have it all. Super stamina, super fighting
skills, exotic European features and sexy middle eastern complexion!

[Chris McCrohan]

Post by Galad Damodred

Post by Chris McCrohan
I always pictured the Aiel as having Arab complexions, which while not
exactly black, are definitely dark.

Damn these Aiel seem to have it all. Super stamina, super fighting
skills, exotic European features and sexy middle eastern complexion!

Don't forget bigamy.

[Chucky & Janica]

Once upon a time - for example, Sun, 4 May 2008 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT) -
there was this guy, or something, called Chris McCrohan

Post by Chris McCrohan

Post by Galad Damodred
Damn these Aiel seem to have it all. Super stamina, super fighting
skills, exotic European features and sexy middle eastern complexion!

Don't forget bigamy.

Polygamy.

And they're totally tall. and manage to have red hair *and* live in a
sun-blasted wasteland. You know, like so many redheads can.

Let's face it, they're not really humans. They're genetically altered
life forms created by the Aes Sedai in bygone millennia.




C&J

[Galad Damodred]

Post by Chucky & Janica
Let's face it, they're not really humans. They're genetically altered
life forms created by the Aes Sedai in bygone millennia.

I know you were joking when you wrote this but there maybe an element
of truth in this. The Aiel are exceptional people in pretty much every
way. They could well be geneticially modified humans from the age of
legends. After all weren't trollocs engineered in the same way?

[Chucky@Work]

Post by Galad Damodred

Post by Chucky & Janica
Let's face it, they're not really humans. They're genetically altered
life forms created by the Aes Sedai in bygone millennia.

I know you were joking when you wrote this but there maybe an element
of truth in this. The Aiel are exceptional people in pretty much every
way. They could well be geneticially modified humans from the age of
legends. After all weren't trollocs engineered in the same way?

One of the best parts of the series in my opinion was Rand's flashback
sequence through the Aiel tattoo-parlour ter'angreal where he got his
Dragon inks.

In that, he flashes back to the drilling of the Bore, back at the end
of the Age of Legends. He's an Aiel. Somebody bumps into him in the
street, he has the Way of the Leaf so he doesn't react in any way and
the guy basically says "get out of my way" until his girlfriend says
"hey, look at his hair, he's an Aiel".

This Aiel ("Aiel" meaning "Dedicated" in the same way that "Aes Sedai"
means "Servant to All") was Mierin Sedai's personal Aiel, and she
turned out to become Lanfear once the Bore was drilled (incidentally,
Mierin Sedai was working on a "new form of Power" that turned out to
be the Dark One, and she was working with this character named
Beidomon, about whom nothing more is learned...). So the Aiel were
connected quite directly to the Aes Sedai, and they were quite
special. Even though at the time, they were totally pacifistic.

Then we have the sequences with the Aiel and the Ogier, singing in the
harvest. I'm sure some sort of magic was involved there. If nothing
else, the Nym had some sort of power.




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Oh, wait. Argument. Um, well I can come up with something later. This
is good shit.

[Tim Bruening]

Post by ***@Work

Post by Galad Damodred

Post by Chucky & Janica
Let's face it, they're not really humans. They're genetically altered
life forms created by the Aes Sedai in bygone millennia.

I know you were joking when you wrote this but there maybe an element
of truth in this. The Aiel are exceptional people in pretty much every
way. They could well be geneticially modified humans from the age of
legends. After all weren't trollocs engineered in the same way?

One of the best parts of the series in my opinion was Rand's flashback
sequence through the Aiel tattoo-parlour ter'angreal where he got his
Dragon inks.
In that, he flashes back to the drilling of the Bore, back at the end
of the Age of Legends. He's an Aiel. Somebody bumps into him in the
street, he has the Way of the Leaf so he doesn't react in any way and
the guy basically says "get out of my way" until his girlfriend says
"hey, look at his hair, he's an Aiel".
This Aiel ("Aiel" meaning "Dedicated" in the same way that "Aes Sedai"
means "Servant to All") was Mierin Sedai's personal Aiel, and she
turned out to become Lanfear once the Bore was drilled (incidentally,
Mierin Sedai was working on a "new form of Power" that turned out to
be the Dark One, and she was working with this character named
Beidomon, about whom nothing more is learned...). So the Aiel were
connected quite directly to the Aes Sedai, and they were quite
special. Even though at the time, they were totally pacifistic.

PP 435-437 of paperback TSR: As Charn made his way down the side of the
street towards the Sharom (where the infamous Bore was being drilled so that
Aes Sedai of both genders could together tap a new source of the One Power
Mierin AKA Lanfear had found), he was thinking to himself that he would go to
M'Jinn and accept Nalla's latest offer of marriage (no indication in his
thoughts that he suspected that anything disastrous was about to happen).
After the bumping incident, he resumed his journey, pushing his way through
the crowd. Then the Bore was completed and the DO reached out, destroying
the Sharom in jets of black fire that swallowed the sun in unnatural night.
At that point, Charn broke into a run, but he knew that he was too late. He
was sworn to serve Aes Sedai, and he was too late. I got the impression that
Charn was blaming himself for the disaster by not getting there in time. Why
would Charn be blaming himself? There was no indication in his earlier
thoughts that he suspected that anything bad was about to happen, so he would
have no reason to feel guilty!

[Jasper Janssen]

On Mon, 05 May 2008 22:33:36 +0300, Chucky & Janica

Post by Chucky & Janica
Once upon a time - for example, Sun, 4 May 2008 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT) -
there was this guy, or something, called Chris McCrohan

Post by Chris McCrohan

Post by Galad Damodred
Damn these Aiel seem to have it all. Super stamina, super fighting
skills, exotic European features and sexy middle eastern complexion!

Don't forget bigamy.

Polygamy.

ISTR more polyandry than polygamy.

Post by Chucky & Janica
And they're totally tall. and manage to have red hair *and* live in a
sun-blasted wasteland. You know, like so many redheads can.
Let's face it, they're not really humans. They're genetically altered
life forms created by the Aes Sedai in bygone millennia.

No shit, sherlock.

Jasper

[Chucky & Janica]

Once upon a time - for example, Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:16:12 +0200 -
there was this guy, or something, called Jasper Janssen

Post by Jasper Janssen

Post by Chucky & Janica

Post by Chris McCrohan

Post by Galad Damodred
Damn these Aiel seem to have it all. Super stamina, super fighting
skills, exotic European features and sexy middle eastern complexion!

Don't forget bigamy.

Polygamy.

ISTR more polyandry than polygamy.

Husbands with multiple wives, and wives with multiple husbands. Pardon
me for using an inaccurate term to encompass both.

Post by Jasper Janssen

Post by Chucky & Janica
And they're totally tall. and manage to have red hair *and* live in a
sun-blasted wasteland. You know, like so many redheads can.
Let's face it, they're not really humans. They're genetically altered
life forms created by the Aes Sedai in bygone millennia.

No shit, sherlock.

*glances around*

I beg to differ.





C&J