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Are Hollywood-style reboots possible in literature?
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Bab@frell.theremailer.net, the Stallyn
2013-01-15 15:55:23 UTC
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Perhaps another author could be given Jordan's notes and take a shot at
ending the series properly?
David DeLaney
2013-01-15 20:00:24 UTC
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Post by ***@frell.theremailer.net, the Stallyn
Perhaps another author could be given Jordan's notes and take a shot at
ending the series properly?
Tchk. Any such attempt after Brandon's would have to be done WITHOUT the
assistance of Harriet, and, I suspect, without the assistance of Tor Books
either. All of the people who are complaining mightily that it's not written
how Jordan would have and they can see where the seams are? Guess what? You're
deluding yourselves. You don't KNOW which parts Brandon wrote and which parts
are basically straight from outline/written 20 years ago/etc. You don't KNOW
which plot twists or completions Brandon came up with. You're just mad because
it's not The Genuine Article Because He's Dead and are acting out and
projecting.

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discuss various parts of it. LOUDLY I SAY
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Rast
2013-01-15 19:56:44 UTC
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Post by ***@frell.theremailer.net, the Stallyn
Perhaps another author could be given Jordan's notes and take a shot at
ending the series properly?
Going back to book... five? six? Because, in retrospect, that's where it
started to go off the rails.
Post by David DeLaney
All of the people who are complaining mightily that it's not written
how Jordan would have and they can see where the seams are? Guess what? You're
deluding yourselves. You don't KNOW which parts Brandon wrote and which parts
are basically straight from outline/written 20 years ago/etc. You don't KNOW
which plot twists or completions Brandon came up with.
Yeah. But while many of the plot points probably came from Jordan, the
details and the mechanics came from Sanderson. And here's too much focus
on characters we don't care about, though that certainly isn't a problem
that started with Sanderson.

Also, the prose is bad and the dialogue is bad.
Post by David DeLaney
Dave, waiting patiently till the regulars have read the book so we can loudly
discuss various parts of it. LOUDLY I SAY
Unless you mean Chucky, I suspect most of the regulars are gone forever.

Oh, Leigh liked it, more or less:

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/01/the-wheel-of-time-a-memory-of-light-
spoiler-review
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Chucky @ Work
2013-02-25 13:20:38 UTC
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Post by Rast
Yeah. But while many of the plot points probably came from Jordan, the
details and the mechanics came from Sanderson. And here's too much focus
on characters we don't care about, though that certainly isn't a problem
that started with Sanderson.
On the contrary, I think Sanderson did a great job finally making a
lot of those characters - Talmanes, Pevara, Androl, heck, even Olver
and some of the old-time regulars - into interesting and
non-interchangeable *characters*. Very nice.
Post by Rast
Also, the prose is bad and the dialogue is bad.
Wow, really? I thought some of it was pretty damn awesome, haven't
chuckled out loud at Jordan's stuff in at least eight books. And the
rest was at the *very least* passable.
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Post by David DeLaney
Dave, waiting patiently till the regulars have read the book so we can
loudly discuss various parts of it. LOUDLY I SAY
Unless you mean Chucky, I suspect most of the regulars are gone forever.
FOR ALL TIME.
Post by Rast
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/01/the-wheel-of-time-a-memory-of-light-
spoiler-review
TL;DR, as I believe the young people today are saying.

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Chucky @ Work
2013-02-25 13:16:33 UTC
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Post by David DeLaney
Post by ***@frell.theremailer.net, the Stallyn
Perhaps another author could be given Jordan's notes and take a shot at
ending the series properly?
Tchk. Any such attempt after Brandon's would have to be done WITHOUT the
assistance of Harriet, and, I suspect, without the assistance of Tor Books
either. All of the people who are complaining mightily that it's not written
how Jordan would have and they can see where the seams are? Guess what? You're
deluding yourselves. You don't KNOW which parts Brandon wrote and which parts
are basically straight from outline/written 20 years ago/etc. You don't KNOW
which plot twists or completions Brandon came up with. You're just mad because
it's not The Genuine Article Because He's Dead and are acting out and
projecting.
What he said.
Post by David DeLaney
Dave, waiting patiently till the regulars have read the book so we can loudly
discuss various parts of it. LOUDLY I SAY
Yo, I'm done!



- ***@w
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13 of 12, the CMM Collective
CHOW:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
Give a hoot, read my book:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/arsebook-my-rear-in-status-2011/
Chucky @ Work
2013-02-25 13:15:44 UTC
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Post by ***@frell.theremailer.net, the Stallyn
Perhaps another author could be given Jordan's notes and take a shot at
ending the series properly?
*laugh*



- ***@w
--
13 of 12, the CMM Collective
CHOW:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/chow-a-dance-with-dragons/
Give a hoot, read my book:
http://stchucky.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/arsebook-my-rear-in-status-2011/
Rast
2013-02-27 21:27:29 UTC
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Post by ***@frell.theremailer.net, the Stallyn
Perhaps another author could be given Jordan's notes and take a shot at
ending the series properly?
*laugh*
If the series were to be "fixed", they might as well start editing back
in book five or so.
Contro
2013-03-03 16:21:27 UTC
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Post by Rast
Post by Chucky @ Work
Post by ***@frell.theremailer.net, the Stallyn
Perhaps another author could be given Jordan's notes and take a shot at
ending the series properly?
*laugh*
If the series were to be "fixed", they might as well start editing back
in book five or so.
That, Sir, is a mighty-fine point. Some would argue earlier as well,
and probably will.
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Contro.
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