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What is Suroth up to? Who has been impersonating Tuon? It seems very
much like she would not have a pretend Tuon, so what was the arrangement
with Rand? Tuon as Empress, interesting, I guess that removes the need
for Rand to go there for the prophecy (either version) to be resolved)
I don't think it is so much an impersonation as misinformation being
spread around deliberately by Semirhage or the rumors already spreading
that Tuon is dead and perhaps Suroth is now considered Empress de jure,
and barring a coronation or some such is now tDotNM.
It would have been insteresting to see Semirhage in action as opposed to
hearing about it second hand. Jordan always said there was the slight
chance of a single scene outside Randland besides Far Snows. It would
have really made everyone sit up and take notice if we see Semirhage pop
into the throne room in Seandar and just law some serious carnage down.
Though her comment about the blood seemed very non-Semirhage. Maybe
Jordan just forgot. Or maybe Semirhage just introduced the imperial
court to a pack of Fades and sat back to watch.
I'm wondering now if the Darkhounds are hunting Tuon, not Mat.
Post by AshNice to see progress in the BA hunt, even if it is only two more, it's
looking more and more like a race between Alviarin and the others
One thing that bothered me. In Pevara's pov, thinking/discussing the
wall they seem to have reached with their hunt, it mentions how at least
they have four and four names. Well the four they have are Talene,
Atuan, Marris and Karale. But Galina is considered dead. And it says
how Marris "one other" is out of the Tower. "as with the others".
So Atuan is Talene's "one other" but apparently Talene is not her's.
Meaning that the one other does not know who knows her identity?
I'm still trying to fgiure out how that works. i wonder if Jordan is as
well. Poor organization that can see a cell totally reliant on one
sister. Which means Jordan will be really challenged to make sure he
doesn't screw this up. The hunters manage to bag an entire cell and it
just happens to be one now entirely cut off from the rest of the
network. As rough as it makes it for the hunters to continue, it is a
piece of luck for them as well. With Talene gone missing, Alviarin
shouldn't be surprised or dismayed too much when the other three BA are
slow or unresponsive.
I still wish the hunters would up the ante a bit before too long.
Start nabbing some key sisters regardless of the identities wrung from
the captive BA. Kidnap them, shield them, plunk them down and have
Talene and the others swear they are BA and then put the rod in the
captive's hands and say, 'AS vapors over the mention of BA be damned.
Take the oath or join those four. Your choice.'
The idea that the BA hunters still quibble and equivocate about the
integrity of their individual Ajah as things now stand is one of the
heaviest handed moments in the book for me. They know the BA exists and
the Last Battle is coming. All know that at least one of the others has
deduced who heads their Ajah. The fact that Jesse, Adelorna, Suana,
Ferane and Serancha all haven't had a recent tour of the Tower cellars
stretches the credibility of the loathing for the BA that Jordan would
like us to believe in everywhere else.
Post by AshSo, the woman on the cover was Galina. Not sure if the male was Neald or
Arganda though
Perrin's part still bores me. I really hope this is short and to the
point no matter how it turns out. How many more chapters do we have to
bear of someone riding/walking etc. in the cold. And Jordan reducing
the col, driven Perrin to a simpering simple-minded boy who just had his
first kiss was ridiculous. Perrin has three AS, who all have been
established since TPOD as something he cannot trust and has to weighed
up down and sideways. Faced with one supposedly playing Tower games
with the _Shaido_ and Perrin just jumps up down clapping "Faile Faile
Faile". I mean I might buy that...If PErrin had not been to Dumai's
Fucking Wells.
Post by AshEgwene, I assume it was Nichola who betrayed her, she is in for some
beatings, I was surprised that Elaida didn't want to still her though.
Half succeeded in the chain
I tend to waver between it not being Nicola and typical Jordan writing.
i would like to think if it was Nicola, she would have told them exactly
what was going to happen, i.e. the cuendillar. Because she could always
back up her knowledge by turning Elaida's tea service into something
better. The fact that the capturing sisters don't seem to know what was
going to happen and some still aren;t sure even after the fact indicates
the chance the betrayal was more in the form of "watch the harbor" and
that's it.
I cannot believe that Jordan had Egwene so stupid as to not invert her
weaves. Gah!
Post by AshI thought it moved things along well, a sense of things happening and
some things that really shocked me
Overall I was pleased. I'm not sure where he is going with Ituralde
unless to just touch briefly on events that will be rumors and news
throughout the rest of the book as this the next to last book, who the
fuck cares about Tarabon at this point? Particularly with Seanchan
falling apart at the seams, the threat of the Return suddenly landing a
couple of million Seanchan now seems non-existent.
Was glad to finally find out the third Gray Sitter. I really hope that
we see a sitting of Elaida full Hall in this book.
I did not expect Leane to be caught though. That could make it
interesting. With the BA hunt reaching a turning point of some kind,
her presence in the Tower dredges up all kinds of old looney theories.
Alviarin is known as BA by six others. Three that consider her a
cell-mate and three that know she is their leader.
I know I am way too sensitive, but I'd swear that Joran was laying on
the Mesaana red herrings left and right. Tsutama, Melare, Javindhra,
Duhara and the return of Norine all seemed liek he was trying to
distract us. Which raises my hopes that if all are deliberate items of
misinformation, her reveal is on the way.
Duhara's departure is odd. Though if Mesaana turns out to be her, I
will be really pissed. I'm still trying to figure out why Duhara would
take off though. Maybe crazy Tsutama sent her out to do something.
Or maybe Elaida did.
I hope that Egwene's bit is from the first chapter as mentioned
elsewhere. I want a good six or eight chapters burrowing into the Tower
situation followed by at least one or two with Siuan in the rebel camp.
Overall, it definitely whet the juices. Whether the main course lives
up to the starter will of course have to wait until October.
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JSH